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Old 11-19-2017, 10:26 AM   #41
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When they ask for a discount after the price I ask what they want to leave out. If they ask beforehand I raise the price 10% and given them a 5% discount.
That's pretty much my SOP at this stage in my life. Often just say "No, the price is what it is." and get the job anyway.

I have sorted out most of the ones that try and pull that crap, but sometimes a new GC will slip through the cracks and I have to educate them.
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Old 11-19-2017, 03:52 PM   #42
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I'm only 22, however I am working hard to start getting my licensing to become a GC.

However things I have learned.

1. Allot about an 30min-2hrs extra to the elderly and disabled. They might not be able to pay the most but they will be repeates and a great referrals.

2. When that 30+ yr old who's been in the trades since they were 18 says you should buy a tool, that means go buy it and learn to use it. It might not work for you or it can make that 10 minutes doing something a 2 minute job.

3. All tools will always pay for themselves if they are specifically made for your trade(s)

4. Ridgid multitool (oscillating tool) not trying to promote my preferred brand. However it is the most versatile brand with design and changeable heads. I could review it all day long but not right now.

5. Good friends Do Not = good help but Good Help= Friend

6. Tagging off of 5, pay your help accordingly, if they are reliable but kinda lacking in efficiency, give them a raise you might be surprised what that can and will do to the ambitious. It also weeds out the lazy.

7. Have a solid contract and put everything in writing. That way when that sweet innocent cooperative lady tries to screw you out of 4 grand you're ready to solve the problem outside of court but aren't scared of the court.

8. You're wife, girlfriend, husband, boyfriend, kids, dogs, cats, contractor, customer, vehicle, neighbor on at the end of the, etc p*ssed you off. tell your employees you're having a bad day they will usually let you be and be cooperative, don't take it out on them.

9.coffee, soda, cigarettes, your morning go juice is must don't forget it

10. Invest in tools for clean up. Vacs, blowers, brooms, DUSTPANS, magnets, trashcan, etc. Will make or break you, clean up sucks, make it easy for you but leave the customer happy.

11. If you don't like to do it, or suck at it sub it don't try it to save a few bucks.
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I'm only 22, however I am working hard to start getting my licensing to become a GC.

However things I have learned.


6. Tagging off of 5, pay your help accordingly, if they are reliable but kinda lacking in efficiency, give them a raise you might be surprised what that can and will do to the ambitious. It also weeds out the lazy.
I've tried to pay people to do more, but it didn't work for me. Maybe I was doing it wrong?

Edit: I'm not saying I don't pay my good guys well. I'm saying that I couldn't get an OK gut to be a good guy by paying him more.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:09 PM   #44
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I'm only 22, however I am working hard to start getting my licensing to become a GC.

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6. Tagging off of 5, pay your help accordingly, if they are reliable but kinda lacking in efficiency, give them a raise you might be surprised what that can and will do to the ambitious. It also weeds out the lazy.
I've tried to pay people to do more, but it didn't work for me. Maybe I was doing it wrong?
You have to gauge the person if they show they know more and will do it but avoid it it's most likely they feel as though they aren't getting paid enough. Give them a little more and kinda start giving them more responsibility they will either take it and go or just keep doing minimal work. If they are just show up everyday and just do bare minimum leaving them where they are is fine its usually an indication they don't want to move up and are comfortable with where they are, this also means they are expendable when times get slow. If they are iffy people weekly call ins show up late then well you probably should drop them off pay roll like before you read this post.
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Have solid working contracts ! In detail.

I did way too many jobs on nothing more than a handshake. Those days are long gone and I got my arse handed to me many times over.
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You have to gauge the person if they show they know more and will do it but avoid it it's most likely they feel as though they aren't getting paid enough.
Your list was exemplary, especially for someone so young. But I have to disagree with this.

A real go-getter can't slack off (at least not for long); that just goes completely against his grain. He'll produce no matter what he's being paid.

But the other side of that is that he's not going to put up with being underpaid for too long. If he's that sharp, he's also sharp enough to look for a job where they'll pay him what he's worth.

I've seen pay raises result in extra/better production many times--but it's almost always a short-term reflex. The guy soon settles back into his average as the magic wears off.
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The number one thing that comes to mind is to settle things in real time to the extent possible. If someone asks you about a project you know you don't want to do don't spend the time to talk about it and look at it. Best case scenario you wast an hour or two. Worst case scenario you get sucked in to doing it. It's also quite possible that you will look and then drag your feet and have it hanging over your head to get back to them for weeks, months or indefinitely.

There is nothing wrong with telling someone you are not interested. It can be uncomfortable. It might mean they realize there is something about them or their house that turned you off.

This is definitely not limited to what work to take or customers. Don't leave anything up in the air that does not need to be.

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The number two thing. As you get started in business, think about every move you make and how you want to handle each situation as a system. As your plate gets fuller you want you mind free to run the business. Develope systems in place for everything from ordering material, cleaning the shop, repairing tools, keeping a schedule, packing a lunch, vehicle maintenance, record keeping, taking phone calls, bidding jobs and so much more. Don't just do these things. Decide how to handle these things as a business. By doing so you will free your mind, manage stress and be in position to hand tasks off to others in a manner where they can run with it and you can monitor their execution.

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You have to gauge the person if they show they know more and will do it but avoid it it's most likely they feel as though they aren't getting paid enough.
Your list was exemplary, especially for someone so young. But I have to disagree with this.

A real go-getter can't slack off (at least not for long); that just goes completely against his grain. He'll produce no matter what he's being paid.

But the other side of that is that he's not going to put up with being underpaid for too long. If he's that sharp, he's also sharp enough to look for a job where they'll pay him what he's worth.

I've seen pay raises result in extra/better production many times--but it's almost always a short-term reflex. The guy soon settles back into his average as the magic wears off.
Well I'll take it as a compliment for the praise I've taken a few courses at the school of hard knocks. But haven't we all

But I'll have to agree, and disagree. Because yes when you see a go getter, and you know you have one you, realize they are either going to be your replacement, or your competition. If they are just good workers. They will just even back out with more responsibility.
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Well I'll take it as a compliment for the praise I've taken a few courses at the school of hard knocks. But haven't we all

But I'll have to agree, and disagree. Because yes when you see a go getter, and you know you have one you, realize they are either going to be your replacement, or your competition. If they are just good workers. They will just even back out with more responsibility.
I have never met anyone good who gauges their effort based on pay. If someone good isn't ok with the pay they won't take the job. If they do they really need it and will work hard. They might take the job expecting more once people see what they can do. If more doesn't come they will move on not slow down.
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Trust your gut, first impressions if does not feel good back away.
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These days sweet little old ladies will screw you.
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These days sweet little old ladies will screw you.
And they might even screw you out of money too...
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You can always use more money,faster horses,younger women and older whiskey.



Now for the serious part; Spend your time wisely,it is your most precious asset.

Things are not always as they seem.

Thoughts are extremely powerful,they create your reality.

The management of thought should be made a priority.

You can always get more money,you can never get more time.
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Thoughts are extremely powerful,they create your reality.

The management of thought should be made a priority.
No, thoughts do not create reality. Reality doesn't care what you think. You either embrace it or you don't. You can change your attitude but you can only effect reality by doing something.
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No, thoughts do not create reality. Reality doesn't care what you think. You either embrace it or you don't. You can change your attitude but you can only effect reality by doing something.


I beg to differ with you. Change the way you look at things and the things you look at will change. Try it in earnest for awhile,see what happens.
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I beg to differ with you. Change the way you look at things and the things you look at will change. Try it in earnest for awhile,see what happens.
Go ahead and will gravity away. My guess is that you'll still fall on your face.
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Go ahead and will gravity away. My guess is that you'll still fall on your face.


Didn't man conquer / overcome gravity with the power of his thoughts / beliefs ? How about hot air balloons,parachutes,airplanes and rockets ?

They didn't just ALL happen,they started out as a thought first.
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Didn't man conquer / overcome gravity with the power of his thoughts / beliefs ? How about hot air balloons,parachutes,airplanes and rockets ?

They didn't just ALL happen,they started out as a thought first.
Gravity is still there. Technology helped overcome man's limitations with it. Nothing flew until something was made, the idea was around since Leonardo's day at least.
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Gravity is still there. Technology helped overcome man's limitations with it. Nothing flew until something was made, the idea was around since Leonardo's day at least.


Absolutely gravity is still there. There are a handful of immutable laws that govern the universe,another one is that all things start out as a thought first. One would not even get out of bed in the morning if you didn't think to do it.


Thought pervades all.

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