Welp, No Job For Me Anymore

rselectric1

Yeah that's where it got to me too. But lets's give him a little breathing room tonight.

He's angry and seems to be in crisis now. Let's hope he doesn't regret his posts tomorrow morning.

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Inner10

I think many of us have been there done that.

Time to stop bitching and put that energy towards lifting your ass out of the chair and finding another job.

rselectric1

True-and Inner you hit 600!

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DeanV

I hate the way trades people milk unemployment while doing side and cash work. Where do these guys think Unemployment money comes from? Next they will be posting about how they should be making more money, but they just made it more expensive for an employer to hire them or someone else by increasing overhead. Doing side work while collecting unemployment (with out reporting the income) is stealing plain and simple from the government and the employer. Doing the work for unreported cash reflects poorly on you and the contractor both.

Tom Struble

is this contractor's talk or disgruntled employee talk?

id rather help a homeowner on here

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ampman

i never said i would screw someone to get my pay first ,i have let poeple go in the past with good severence pay, but when there is no work or very little what can you do

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carolinahandyma

You probably won't ever know for certain what the real reason you are being let go is. Could be a work slow down, could be he has to hire his bro in law, could be something else. The only thing that is certain is that things change in business all the time and that your boss is looking out for himself. You need to look out for yourself and develop relationships with others so you stay working and busy.
Good Luck

go dart

This whole thing smells. As an owner of an above board company meeting payroll, taxes, insurance etc I got no sympathy. Working for cash, milking an honest unemployment system that a previous employer paid into, then complaining when you wern't dealth with " fairly". Hell you started this job on a lie and it looks like its gonna end on one too. What goes around.......

bwalley

It seems as though you are both scumbags, you are collecting unemployment from another job while you are orking for cash, and were going to bail on the guy anyway, it sounds like you got exactly what you deserved.

Gus Dering

I have always felt that being a good carpenter that works for others is very similar to being a self employed contractor.

The good ones work as hard at networking as any contractor to ensure employment. They have friends and prior coworkers networking for them. In essence they have plenty of clientele to draw from when their current employer hits a hole in the schedule.

Here comes the tough love part young man;

Suck it up Bub, there are no guarantees in this business. You need to get your act together and figure out a way to hire on with someone that needs you and will take you under their wing. Stop complaining, no one wants a complainer.

As far as the double dip into Uncle Sam's purse goes, I think that is bad money carma. What goes around comes around kinda thing. Most of us here don't have any government program to draw from when we are out of work either, so the lack of sympathy in those regards is not a surprise to me.

I hope your day goes well for you today. We all hope you find what it is you are looking for.

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Willie T

This post (and mine and others) might be difficult for you to to swallow right now. But those last two sentences above bear some serious contemplation.

There's an old saying "If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything."

When you take away our fancy trucks, our big boats, and our expensive houses... we all stand as just naked carpenters. There has to be more to us than what we own if we are to be truly viewed as men of any virtue.

But it has to begin somewhere. Certain absolute decisions have to be made, understood, and stood upon as a foundation of who we are. Otherwise, we are little more than reactionary pawns in someone else's chess game.

Not to turn anyone off with Biblical references, but one thing stands out as a difficult concept to grasp in that book. And that is when the most definitive and absolute power in this universe says bluntly, "I AM !".

We should also be able to say that.
"I AM... honest."
"I AM... dependable."
"I AM... trustworthy."
....... and on and on.

It is a pitiful state to find yourself in when all you can say is "I AM... __________ (you fill in the blank)... as long as everything goes my way.......... as long as people treat me right..... as long as ___________ (and again, you fill in this blank too)."

Right now, and also as reflected in some of your previous posts, you are allowing yourself to be at the whim of any ill wind that happens to blow your way. The world and present circumstances are dictating your thoughts and actions. This is not the way we are wired to function.

Yes, that gun (whether you do have one or not) can begin to look like a very inviting way out. IF......... there is nothing deeper to who you are. IF you stand for nothing. IF you are willing to relinquish the many, many choices you have in life to someone or something else.

What do you want to stand for? What kind of man do you want others to say you are? When asked, what can you honestly answer by saying......... "I AM... _________ !"?

It's got to be more than "unemployed", "tired", "weak", "alone", "afraid", "lost".

And billy goats do not belong in this conversation....."But, but, but, but" just doesn't cut it. This kind of thinking has to become a part of your inner strength that helps you resist the kind of thinking your recent posts have reflected.

I hope you will take some long hours to think about this. You're facing an opportunity for growth here. Use it wisely. Don't just let it slip away in a whimper.

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Metrojoebarbs

Sorry to hear that freemason. Sucks with winter coming and all. You may have to think about taking a 9-5 (if you can find one) to get you through the winter. Once spring breaks it will get busy again. Not to mention another year of this BS economy down the tubes. Good luck bra....

freemason21

willie, very insightful. to the guys disapproving of me, its fine. im not here to please you, i understand its not right but it is what it is. to the guys with kind words thanks. im gonna be able to go back with my old boss in a couple weeks or so.

fez-head

[QUOTE=Willie T;796602]Some guys believe the avatar you use means something.


I am thinking the same thing. Buck up son and live by the Square. You know better and you also know that there are those that will help if you but ask.

Willie T

BTW. You may not have read enough of my other posts to know this, but I have a volunteer "side job". One I consider far more important than any of the multi-million dollar projects I guided.

I help a local psychologist facilitate behavioral modification classes for ex-felons, accused offenders awaiting trial, and a host of assorted scared and disoriented people anywhere in between those two extremes. I tell you this to let you know that what you are experiencing is not singularly unique. I've been handed guns, pills, and just about any kind of suicide implement you can name. No one really wants to go that route. They usually have just not been able to see any other. That is a part of what I (and dozens of others in our area) do. We offer other paths.

It's not a big deal, but it does make a difference in some lives. We each stand for something we feel is important, and we try to show others they can too. It's about a lot more than just what we may see in front of us right at the moment. You are who you are, not what you have.

That is really something I think you could benefit from by pondering it for awhile.............. You are who you are, not what you have.

And.............. nothing can ever be considered to have been "pondered upon" if we only devote a whole twelve seconds to it. These kinds of things deserve to be brought up again and again in our thoughts for days on end to really do us any good.

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fez-head

Thank you for this post Willie. We ALL need to be reminded now and then

Gus Dering

I would like to be crystal clear about this one thing;

I am not in disapproval of you. I disagree with some your actions. There is a huge difference.

I love Willy's post. This is an opportunity for you to grow.

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Willie T

This is an important point for you to get hold of. Not one single man here knows you personally. Not one. So they cannot possibly approve of, or disapprove of you.

But.......... And this is a big BILLYGOAT "but". They can and do weigh what you say against what they, themselves, stand for and believe. You know it's probably not lining up to their comfort or understanding. You're just reading responses to that. Nothing more. The choice to personalize it is yours alone.

Take that choice, and own it. Make it yours. And determine to do what you feel is right about it.

I once had a girlfriend that contracted MS. I was down in the mouth about it for weeks. One day one of my teachers asked me what was wrong. I said I was worried about Leslie. Her reply was "Are you STILL fretting over that?"

She went to the board, and wrote:
" TO BE HAPPY, JUST FORGET ABOUT YOU! "

I've never forgotten her words.

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J F

After you've been around (life and this industry) you probably won't have such a chip on your shoulder when it comes to others viewpoints about what you're doing.

If not, it will probably be the least of your worries in a life filled with disappointment after disappointment, wondering why you're always getting "screwed over".

I hope you can make the best of the situation, but you have to realize what you sound like on here amongst a lot of people who have worked hard for years and years, but that will only come with some more experience and maturity.

Hopefully you've learned what a lot of us were saying on your other thread about this industry being full of situations just like you've now run into and not be too naive in the future regarding "sure things"...because this shiite happens all the times, be it with honest guys who've lost projects or scumbags who just plain bs you.

Hope things work out, but don't blame the world, just keep working at getting better dealing with what it throws at you.

Willie T

[quote=Jesse Kirchhoff;796825]Well said, Noble.

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