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Old 11-21-2017, 10:19 PM   #21
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Now you guys got me thinking tires or tracks? Lol I've only used tires so may stick with that. Do the tracks wear out easy on asphalt?

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If you're mainly on asphalt you don't want tracks, stick with tires, better yet foam filled, or solid.
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Old 11-22-2017, 07:49 AM   #22
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If you're mainly on asphalt you don't want tracks, stick with tires, better yet foam filled, or solid.
We would manly be on dirt but some time spent on the road scraping mud off

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Back to your original post for a minute.

Best part of a skid steer is you can haul it with most pickups. As someone else said, I would invest in the forks attachment as well, maybe even the auger too.

I wouldn't get into renting it out. You can probably get a used one with a trailer and an attachment or two for 20k so if it goes a month without earning you any money it isn't going to crush you.
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We would manly be on dirt but some time spent on the road scraping mud off

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As long as you're on stiffer ground then regular tires should work fine.
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Tracks are great but they cost more money and will require more upkeep and maintenance as they have a lot more moving parts. When they go bad it's expensive.
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A lot has to do with the operator as well. a lot of operators like to jam the controls opposite one another so you’re basically doing circles standing still which wears the hell out of the tires and/or tracks and it will tear up any soft surface. Whereas if you make more gradual turns you will do less damage to both tires/tracks and the landscaping.

Here’s a general rule, if you are going to be on a lot of mixed surfaces but mostly concrete asphalt etc. you generally want to stick with tires, if you are going to constantly be on glass, mud, sand and other soft surfaces the tracks are much better especially if it is a lot of wet mud where tires will easily get stuck

You might want to compare the price difference between tracks and tires because tracks are significantly higher cost to replace. Both of the concrete contractors I know have between 10-20 skid-steers which they use obviously for concrete and they plow snow in the winter time with them and neither one has tracked machines


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Also a track machine is going to be A LOT more new.
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I have always wanted to try a set of over the tire tracks on our machine to see how they did. Seems like they could be a good option and not the worst thing to take off if you didn't want or need the tracks for a specific job.

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I just picked up a set of Grouser ott for my skidsteer last spring for $3400. It makes it a whole new machine. Right after I got them, we were on a job back in the woods where they almost paid for themselves. Just got off another job a couple weeks ago where they definitely paid for themselves.

I take them off if we are gonna be working on blacktop driveways and such, it only takes about 10 mins to take them off, a bit longer to put on.



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Old 11-22-2017, 09:27 PM   #29
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We've got a 753, S185, and T190.

753 and 185 are rubber tire machines. We filled the tires and run steel tracks on them. We spend most of our time in the dirt and mud. Tracks are way better for working in soft conditions.

The over the tire steel tracks do have drawbacks though. If they are loose and your tires are wet, you'll be spinning tires inside the tracks.

We leave the steel tracks on 99% of the time. They only come off for jobs on asphalt.

The T190 is a rubber track machine. It is much smoother over rough terrain. It gets better traction than the wheeled machines so you can push/dig harder before you lose traction compared to one with tires.

We used to have a backhoe attachment for the loaders. It worked just fine for digging ditches in decent conditions. Once you get into rock or stiff soils it always tried to pull itself into the ditch instead of pull dirt out of the ditch. I'd not consider it as a production tool for large excavations.


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I have a buddy that was using a 773 Bobcat...he is a concrete guy. He was wanting a new/better skid loader, and not being internet savvy, asked me to help him find one. He wanted another wheeled machine even though I told him tracks were the way.

One rainy, gray, dreary day, he came over to my office and we were scanning the net to see what was available....and I got a call to go unload a steel building that showed up without anyone thinking it would be muddy on the job site.

So my buddy goes with me....my truck was hooked to our gooseneck trailer, and I got on my T200, used the forks to tip the ramps back (meaning I wasn't getting wet or dirty, backed the machine up the ramps, and then used the forks pull pull the ramps back over....got off the Bobcat and walked the trailer back to my truck. No mud on me. Hooked my pre-set chains and off we went.

We get to the job site, and the country road is sloppy wet mud....the drive way is under water....and I tell the trucker to unstrap, and get out of the way. I tipped the ramps from the seat of the Bobcat, off the trailer, and unloaded the entire building kit, sheets and all, without help, without trouble, and without getting out of the machine....now the Cat was dirty and muddy, and I did wear gloves to re-chain when I loaded her back, but essentially....the toughest part of that job on a cold crappy wet day was driving there.

My buddy had got out of the truck and put gloves on to "help" and I waved him off, so he watched the show from the cab....and when we headed back to my office, he said maybe he needed to think about tracks. He could not have loaded his 773 on a wet trailer deck like I did the T200 either.

He bought a used T190 for 18k, and then a year later, a brand new 430 or whatever the new machine that replaced the 190. His old 773 is used now with a demo hammer, because he doesn't give a crap about how hard it is on the old one, and that is about one place a wheeled loaded has value...concrete demolition...but I run my hammer on my T200, and I find I can push the breaker against horizontal walls better with tracks, even on concrete.

I have had a 610, 642, 763, and bought the T200...and I would not trade the tracks for all of my wheel machines....difference between night and day.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:01 AM   #31
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Found an auction place in Toronto I'm going to check out for an used skid steer. I'm used to the caterpillar controls and bobcat feet pedals. How's case and new Holland?

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If I were buying today, I would not buy the Bobcat style controls again, I would go with pilot controls. Easier on the ankles.
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I'm partial to case, but that's probably because I have 10's of thousands of hours on them. I haven't operated the newest batch yet though...

I've ran cat, bobcat, new holland, and takeuchi, I would put new holland at the bottom of that bunch just from an operators stand point.
If you're used to the foot pedals, the case hand controls don't take long to get used to.


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When we bought our S175 it was one of the first machines to have a switch to go between hand or foot controls. Once I got used to hand controls I never went back. It hasn't been switched into foot control for years. To it is easier to finesse the buckets with hand controls vs foot.
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As far as skid steers, I've only run Bobcats and never really cared for the foot operated bucket controls.
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What's your guys yearly maintenance cost?

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Also would 4000 hours be too much? On a skid steer?

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4,000 hrs is pushing it for a used machine, it's not bad if it's been meticulously maintained, but that's pretty rare, if it's been on a farm or construction site all it's life, it's usually pretty beat up by then. My dad has a couple with over 10,000 hrs on them, but he's a stickler for maintenance. I would shoot for under 2000 hrs, I picked my case 70XT up with 1500 hrs on it.

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