Union Labor

George Hoenig

The Ibew is the biggest scam there is they dont work over priced and never finish a job on time I think that all the contractors should get together and change how the system works in regaurds to union. When a stewart has the "I cant be fired" attitude then how do you control your jobs and how can you stay in bussiness. Its pretty bad that I had to use union subs on a retail project and had to have microwaves on cart for every space I was working on. Next we will have to pack their lunch and dress them too.

PARA1

Only microwaves? No buffet table and espresso machine? Maaan, you got off easy!

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Magnettica

This ought to be interesting.

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excellencee

Microwaves?? Back when I was working out of the hall we were lucky to have a porta-john. Sometimes didn't even have a patch of woods to use.

nitrox2595

I agree 100%. I had 2 laborers that took a whole day to cut a soffit off, and my guys did it in 2 hours. the unions suck, and are a waste of money.

Tscarborough

2 words, "Crafts Services".

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KillerToiletSpider

Paint with a broad brush much?

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PARA1

iS BREAK TIME OVER ALREADY?

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silvertree

I was a union shop for 3 months, supposedly until the restaurant I built got done. I joined to keep the peace on a town center project. One of the dumbest things I even did. The union guys were harder to get rid of than ants at a picnic. I will never work union again. They must do some good things though. Any of you union guys willing to explain that? Why do you think union is better?

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KillerToiletSpider

Benefits is the first thing that comes to mind. I get medical, dental, vision, and free legal coverage as part of my benefits. There is also the retirement package, which is set up to provide 2/3 of our working income at age 62 when combined with SS, and there is an available 401k for those that choose to utilize it. It is also nice to be able to make a decent wage without having to work two jobs or 80 hours a week.

Believe it or not, there are true craftsman that are also union, not all of us are lazy check collectors. My local expelled 154 members last year for poor workmanship, and I work in the model for union towns, even the meter maids are union.

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cmec

da well gee i are dum scab shop and ween i work davis bacon i get scale and h&w package and dont pay twice for hospitalization my wife already has or contribute to a collective bargiang unit all the money goes in my pocket.

silvertree

Thanks, I was never union except for a few months. I have a good friend who runs one of only 2 union remodelers in the Twin Cities. I respect the guy and everyone in his outfit is top notch. I know there are bums who hide behind the union and I know the union is a good place to get decent tradesmen. Nowadays the line has blurred. There are plenty of non-union bums out there too. When I was union only the crew was, I opted out as the owner. There were problems for me later when I finished the project, the union went back on its word and said once your union your always union. That episode was a lot like the Sopranos checking up on me now and then.

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MIbeachbuilder

thinking........

looking.......

Celtic

Have you read all the contract languages that allowed these things to happen?
...or did someone just get the best of you?

I'm thinking you got bested.

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steves

I'd rather hang than be union!
Might as well get drunk,carry signs then hit yourself on the head!

But thats just me,I don't belong to any union so I can have a opinion!

mahlere

do not forget that there are at minimum 2 perspectives here...one being the contractor and 1 being the employee...

what's good for the employee may not be good for the employer, and vice versa...

macmikeman

Foolish Yankee Imperialist Scum. Soon after the glorious Peoples Republic of China invades you will all wish for dogflesh scraps rather than squabble over union vs non union. Same goes for ground up or ground down. And taped wirenuts. Only kidding guys, unload your weapons.

mahlere

i see your wife is planning on world domination?

JustaFramer

I know quite a few hard working IBEW guys.

Who cares any way what a rinky dink outfit thinks. All the big name GC's that are national and international are Union with some smaller local shops. Then there are the Union subs that are local good shops. I don't hear these problems you are whining about.

Though there was a company I was working for last month that that hired labor ready labors. they had some construction management problems but blamed them on the work force. Which was BS. so their morning motivational speech was if you don't work harder then the non union companies will take these jobs. I damn near lost it laughing. Since they had also said this was the companies biggest job. LOL this job was big but not that big. Hell one local non union GC could take that job. They would hire Union subs anyway. LOL

By the way I drug up on them.

macmikeman

Nah, her ancestry is Japanese and they already shot their wad once on that.