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Old 03-05-2018, 07:31 PM   #1
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Teacher Claim Any Gc And Sub Can Put Claim Against House Of Customer?


So I go in school to become a parasite (real estate seller). First day. And teacher claim there that gc and subs can put claim against owner house any time without going to court. I called at it bs, and was warned to not interfere with teacher. In a distant way I can imagine that contractor that have contract can put claim without court. But how a sub can do it? Or guy who work per hour?
Other his bright statement was that GC do not get hands dirty as subs work for him.
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Anyone can put a clam against your house.

They can also put lobsters against your house. And starfishes. And seahorses.


They may not live very long there, but it IS possible to do.
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I think they are referring to a lien. Liens can be put on by GC, or a sub. Doesn't mean you will ever see any money from it, it is just a claim.
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I think they are referring to a lien. Liens can be put on by GC, or a sub. Doesn't mean you will ever see any money from it, it is just a claim.
Or even a supplier...


Tipitop, you don't seem to have too much respect for the profession your entering into... why would you refer to them as "parasites"?
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Or even a supplier...


Tipitop, you don't seem to have too much respect for the profession your entering into... why would you refer to them as "parasites"?
Because they are.
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This is going to get good. One day in and he already knows more about the industry than the instructor.

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here in ga a sub can lien the homeowner if the homeowner paid the gc and the gc stiffed the sub.
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I think they are referring to a lien. Liens can be put on by GC, or a sub. Doesn't mean you will ever see any money from it, it is just a claim.
Yeah. Lien. I sorry for confusion. So there worth guilty until proved innocent.
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sad but true Tipi... you would already know the answer to this if you took the time to get licensed as a "contractor"
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Yeah. Lien. I sorry for confusion. So there worth guilty until proved innocent.
That's only determined once it's been to court... all lien'ing does is protect your claim if you aren't paid for work you've done... doesn't mean it's going to be granted and even if is, there's no guarantee you'll actually collect... but placing a lien on a residential property makes it hard to refinance or sell... probably why they're covering it in a real estate course for "parasites"...

Is your trade now going to change to "Professional Parasite"?...

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Or even a supplier...


Tipitop, you don't seem to have too much respect for the profession your entering into... why would you refer to them as "parasites"?
Here clear this like my 2c. First it is not at end of my mind to quit carpentry, this should be my side job. I saw even an electrician there. Second all what 2 instructors talk today about ownership rights and such. I think well wort for every contractor who have any ambition to move in development. I mean this all realty think is related to ours job.
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That's only determined once it's been to court... all lien'ing does is protect your claim if you aren't paid for work you've done... doesn't mean it's going to be granted and even if is, there's no guarantee you'll actually collect... but placing a lien on a residential property makes it hard to refinance or sell... probably why they're covering it in a real estate course for "parasites"...

Is your trade now going to change to "Professional Parasite"?...
Question here. Probably lien is just temporary? Like "prove at court until that date or lien is invalid". Other way around and customer is in situation "guilty till proved innocent". Customer would have to go to court to prove he is innocent and pay expense of court.
I guess will have to apology tomorrow.

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Question here. Probably lien is just temporary? Like "prove at court until that date or lien is invalid". Other way around and customer is in situation "guilty till proved innocent". Customer would have to go to court to prove he is innocent and pay expense of court.
I guess will have to apology tomorrow.
If they were guilty until proven innocent, they would have to pay up before going to court even if they didn't owe anything just because a lien was filed...

That is quite an interesting perspective though considering the marathon case you went through...
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A lien is not temporary. It will stick with the property, until it is sold or re-financed. Then the homeowner will either go to court over it, or pay the bill.

You mentioned that the teacher said a General Contractor doesn't get their hands dirty. That is true, in some areas.
For almost my entire life, a General Contractor would have one or two guys working for them. They would hire subs, for almost everything. The General Contractor would just oversee the project. Besides getting paid for their work, they also mark up the subs price.

Nowadays, I see alot of guys with General Contractor on their trucks and business cards. They seem to think it means they do general types of construction.

So yes. A General Contractor, in the true sense, doesn't get his hands dirty.
I've also heard the slang term of Briefcase Contractor.
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Here clear this like my 2c. First it is not at end of my mind to quit carpentry, this should be my side job. I saw even an electrician there. Second all what 2 instructors talk today about ownership rights and such. I think well wort for every contractor who have any ambition to move in development. I mean this all realty think is related to ours job.
I am a licensed realtor now for a few weeks and also a Masonry contractor. Your right i learned a lot that will help me go about my life as a contractor also.
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A lien is not temporary. It will stick with the property, until it is sold or re-financed. Then the homeowner will either go to court over it, or pay the bill.
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Or gets a judge to sign it out of existence.

That happened here some years back when the largest home-building in the state went belly-up. All the subs scrambled, filing liens on all the properties they had worked on and...............





.....when the bank sold the properties, a judge's signature invalidated all the liens against it.
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Other his bright statement was that GC do not get hands dirty as subs work for him.
I know of a lot of general contractors that don't get their hands dirty. They just make phone calls and hire subs and make sure the work is getting done on time and done right. It's not a physical job but it is a job that somebody has to do. Most of these generals are doing brand new higher end houses or large additions or remodels.

Also know of a bunch that will hire one or two guys to work with them and do certain parts of the job. One general I know and his helper trim out the house. One I know does siding. These guys usually keep the job site clean and help run it when there is a problem.
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