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Old 03-12-2007, 02:03 PM   #1
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:01 PM   #2
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$22k should cover it.
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$22k should cover it.
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Damn you would have underbid me, I wouldn't do it for any less than $30k.
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I'll low bid and go $21,000. This does not include green board or two coats of paint. If you want those add another $625 and disposal is $305. Since I am not a plumber, the work will need to be done after hours (this is why I am so cheap).

On a serious note, consult Bob Kovacs on this. He is the sites price expert.
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If you can't price this one, either you're not a contractor or you won't be one for long.
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Old 03-12-2007, 06:04 PM   #7
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im a newbie
got new customers
they want to remove the laundry sink
cut and cover the water pipes
then drywall and paint it
have no idea how to quote it
any ideas ??

How many sq ft of drywall and paint. Are you planning on painting just the repair area or the whole wall.
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Take the number of hours that you think it will take you to do the job multiplied by the number of years that you have been in business. Add that to the price of the materials, and add 20% for overhead and profit.

Oh, and don't forget to add a little for your insurance too.
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:19 PM   #9
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Oh, and don't forget to add a little for your insurance too.
lets not forget the rising costs of female strippers....I always factor that into my bid
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Dang. I thought that I had it nailed.

I guess that I should have read all of the footnotes in the Means book.

Don't you just hate it when that happens?
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Here is another sure-fire method:

Odds are, the Owner has an uncle who used to BE a contractor, and he will probably be happy to tell you how to do the job, how much to charge, and why. You probably won't even have to ask, he'll most likely volunteer the information for FREE.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:07 PM   #12
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oh brother ...




get a job
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You guys absolutely crack me up. I would have done the job for $8650 and been happy. Obviously I will have to revise my pricing stategies!

Seriously, this poor shlub comes on the board and is asking for legitimate help. As long as he really is a contractor and not a disguised homeowner, we shouuld try to help him.

Thus, I will akshully take pen to paper (virtuously speaking of course), and try to price this properly.

Materials:
green board, plumbing supplies, paint, caulk (don't women just love the way that's pronounced?), fixtures, etc. $650.00
Fudge factor $750.00

Actual labour: demo, run-around, cut, paste, dry, paint $900.00

supervising helper, correcting his miscues, listening to homeowner complain, waiting for and receiving advice from above mentioned uncle
$850.00

Implementing said advice, then re-doing it $900.00

Administrative Overhead( 1 trip to the bar, 3 lap dances, a round for the house, one rare steak,and a side of fries) $350.00

Gasoline, advertising, insurance, paperwork, idle time $300.00

Profit $1500.00

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Darn tire kicker, had 10 of us work hard on "bids" and never got back to any of us! Dirt's correct, we need to charge for our time.
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Seriously, this poor shlub comes on the board and is asking for legitimate help. As long as he really is a contractor and not a disguised homeowner, we shouuld try to help him.
stone - i in general have utmost respect for you and your postings (and i thought the priceless thing ... while a worn out commericial -- it was funny!!)

HOWEVER

no - i do not consider this "legitimate" help

legitimate help is "i can I make my book keeping more efficient"

or --- "HO doesn't want to pay ... what now coach?"

but pricing out on removing a freakin laundry sink. This is worse than "so how much per square foot ..."


Contracting is WAY to easy to get into ---

OBVIOUSLY, right??



i don't know everything - im barely a contractor/businessman --- personally i don't feel i deserve to call myself one


but ive gotten knocked down - gotten up --- and then just started to punch harder.



but this thread is a JOKE



it's removing a freaking laundry sink. If you cannot name your price for that --- GET A JOB


world's smallest violin ....

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Old 03-14-2007, 06:37 AM   #16
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im a newbie
got new customers
they want to remove the laundry sink
cut and cover the water pipes
then drywall and paint it
have no idea how to quote it
any ideas ??
I'll do the drywall and painting...my rate is $125/hr. When can I start?
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:39 AM   #17
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Arturjhawk,

I'll give you a hand, here, son.

For starters, your biggest area of concern is the potential for liability regarding the capping of the water supply. If you do not have liability insurance sufficient to cover the loss in the event of a catastrophic leak, then hire a plumber. (Make sure the plumber has the necessary insurance) Around Dallas, you could expect to pay up to three hundred twenty-five dollars for the plumber.

Removal of the sink is fairly straightforward. You can probably figure on three hours to get it removed and disposed of properly.

The drywall installation will take you up to two hours.

Go to a good paint store and get some ultra-fast dry joint compound. Each coat will dry in less than an hour, so you can apply three coats in one day.

Also, while you are at the paint store, get a good quality latex paint in a sheen that is acceptable to the homeowner. If you are lucky, then you can get by with just painting the complete wall. More than likely, you will have to paint the entire room. Again, the quick dry time of the latex is important. Probably, you can apply two coats in one day.

You may have to come back a third day to touch up the paint or apply a full third coat.

Now.....you figure out how much three days of your time is worth. Like most contractors with four decades in the business, I have a set of rates that I use, depending on the client and the circumstances. You will need to decide what your rates will be.

Lastly, don't forget the liability issue. A catastrophic leak can bankrupt you. Do not take the job if there is not enough money in it to have liability insurance.

Good luck.
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:19 AM   #18
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another weekend Jiffy lube cont. P.S. Like the way you guys handeled this.Oh $ 20.00 should handel this job
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:55 AM   #19
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I feel bad for this poster but I am with Mr Diggler. If this guy remodels and does HVAC, both of which can get very involved, and cannot estimate a cake walk like this, he's sunk.

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I sometimes wondewr how many contractors here just woke up one day and poof! they had all the answers. Never had to ask for help on anything. They just woke up one day and knew it all or what they needed to know to run and operate a business in the trades. I guess if that is the way it is for some, they can blow someone out and castrate them of any will to do better or ask questions so they are not running blind, doing inferior work, lowballing, etc.. Read these and other forums and it is obvious that even experienced contractors sometimes get into a situation they are not comfortable with and they ask others in the trades. Most of the time, they are not ridiculed, they are respected for asking and getting answers before proceeding. Come on folks, give the sincere noobies a break. Take a minute and remember when. And no, not all contractors worked in the field for 20 years to gain their knowledge. With todays technology, many times that is not necessary to a certain extent.
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