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Old 09-26-2007, 05:16 AM   #1
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Rough In Inspection


I am having some rmodeling done and the contract calls for the third payment due when "rough in inspection is done" this project is not even close to half done,so when is rough in completed and inspected by whom? Thanks.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:09 AM   #2
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Did you pull a permit for the job?

If so, then it would be when the rough electrical, plumbing, interior framing, insulation, hvac, etc (or whatever applies), have passed inspection.

It also depends on what inspections are required by your municipality.

If you didn't pull a permit, or if certain inspections are not necessary, then get an inspection by a D3P (that is, if you feel uncertain about the quality). This is only a suggestion, but could save you money.
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Rough in that I use is when all the work in the walls is done and inspected before the drywall goes on, such as electrical wire, plumbing, A/C ducts, and insulation. The city/county building ispector should do the inspection assuming you pulled permits.
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Read and understand contracts before signing! This goes both ways- ho and contarctors. There are a lot of posts re payment schedules, conflicts with ho over inclusions, final payment, ect. ; all things that should be listed in a GOOD contract. For all who do not have a good contract template, look up AIA contracts and down load/copy them. A proper contract will save your @$$ in court! They have several, depending on the job size. Most of my jobs are above $100,000 and the contract I use is written in lawyer speak. Hard to digest after reading the first time, but it is written by a third party(AIA), covers much of the ho problems I read about here, and will hold up in court much better than a contract you copied from the back of some construction book. I know I got OT but many problems I read about can be avoided with a well written, detailed contract.-Chris
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we list as follows:

After rough plumbing x amount due

after rough electrical x amount due

After rouch HVAC x amount due

after rough framing x amount due

after insualation and drywall inspections x amount due

After floor tile installed x amount due etc etc ....
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we list as follows:

After rough plumbing x amount due

after rough electrical x amount due

After rouch HVAC x amount due

after rough framing x amount due

after insualation and drywall inspections x amount due

After floor tile installed x amount due etc etc ....


We lump all of the above together. Downpayment at contract signing and then the next payment is typically when all of the above is completed, inspected and drywall hung. We get a large enough down payment so we stay with positive cash flow through the process and I attempt to make things as easy as I can for the client by keeping the payments to a reasonable number - usually 4-5 per project unless we're over $300,00 then it can be 6-8 total payments. Change order payments are due when submitted, so they can fill in the gaps on a short term basis as well.
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We typically get a down payment of $1000, x% after demo is complete, x% after rough inspection is passed, and so on.... This insures me having more than half the money due me before I start finish (beginning with drywall). Most jobs now I just get weekly or bi-weekly payments regardless of what is complete. This prevents the customer from holding back money for ridiculous reasons
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I am having some rmodeling done and the contract calls for the third payment due when "rough in inspection is done" this project is not even close to half done,so when is rough in completed and inspected by whom? Thanks.
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What does the contract say about actually PASSING the rough inspection?


My contract states I receive a payment after passing my rough (that'd be just electrical ...in spite of what it says under the pumpkin over there <~~~ ).

The rough inspection - depending on what/who we are talking about - could be anything ...and hopefully, the inspection is performed by a city/county/State AHJ or a "certified" (aka, legitimate) 3rd party inspection service.


You haven't told us anything about what the project all is.....maybe a few more words from you would help us to help you?
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Thanks all,I just was not sure of the wording. The city has made all 3 inspections and yes I did have a permit. It is a bathroom remodle and they want their 3rd payment after passing the inspections. This being said,is it common for the job to be not even half complete for the next to last payment? Does not seem right to me.The drywall is up,electric wires installed,plumbing ,sub floor down,but really no finish work has been done and they want 90% of the total cost ,just does not seem right.
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Thanks all,I just was not sure of the wording. The city has made all 3 inspections and yes I did have a permit. It is a bathroom remodle and they want their 3rd payment after passing the inspections. This being said,is it common for the job to be not even half complete for the next to last payment? Does not seem right to me.The drywall is up,electric wires installed,plumbing ,sub floor down,but really no finish work has been done and they want 90% of the total cost ,just does not seem right.
Depends on rather the drywall is taped and how extensive the remodel was. Could be that the project is 90% completed. I'm currently in the middle of a bathroom that had been remodeled before...lathe and plaster, shims here, built up there, drywall, plumbing fudged here, plumbing moved there and then there is the electric that had to be redone...30 x 30 window now a 24 x 4 window, interior wall moved 16" along with toilet............wishing I had my drywall done. I will be somewhere around 90% when the drywall is taped

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...but really no finish work has been done and they want 90% of the total cost ,just does not seem right.
I can't say what would be an appropriate percentage - some variables have yet to be discussed, such as:
- bath fixtures ~ who purchases?
- tile work ~ who purchases the tile?
- etc...

I can say that the electric end of the job would be a MINIMUM of 67% of the electric total...for a small job such as this (w/ 3 - 4 lights, 2 switches, 1 GFCI outlet, maybe a jacuzzi connection) the actual percentage might be closer to 90% of the electric price.
Not much is left for the electrician here.
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