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Super B
Trade: General Contractor Lic. since 1985
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Socal Ground Zero
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
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New Guy
Trade: irrigation
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?
i recently did a refit of my upstairs, and made the mistake of trying to , ahem,"play by the rules?"
inspector came out and obviously his wife had been giving him a hard time about something, and i was gonna be his whipping post. he first went to the refitted duct work and began to whine about there not being a fire-damper in the return. i asked him to come look at the downstairs bathroom,pointed to a plastic vent fan, and asked him if that was legal. you shoulda seen his face!!....i THEN walked him to the base of the stairs leading to the second floor and asked him why that huge hole to the upstairs didn't require a self-closing fire door at the top? the building code is FULL of holes that make no sense at ALL!!....if you're not doing structural,research the project well, use common sense, and leave those A HOLES out of it!! in my state, as long as you live in the house for 1 year after construction, you're good to go!! |
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Code Nerd
Trade: Historic Preservationist / Furniture Maker
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Central Oregon
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
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Pompass Ass
Trade: Certified Building and Certified A/C Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Plant City, Florida
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
The reason they want inspections is to make sure the work is being done to local code. It doesn't matter if you own the house or not, the work still needs to be done correctly. |
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Pro
Trade: GC
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
Why? Your municipality figures if it hasn't fallen down in a year, whatever work you did must be okay and won't endanger any fututre inhabitants if it was done improperly? What if you live there for a year, do a hatchet job remodel to add "value", and sell it to some unsuspecting buyer who watches it burn down a while later from the shoddy work? If all it took was "common sense" nobody would need a license to do anything. I guess you're right. "Common sense" would be the only pre-requisite I would worry about when hiring an electrician or plumber.
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Fentoozler
Trade: Professional Pie and Pastry Taster
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Jersey
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
What State is that....the State of Ignorance?
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Pompass Ass
Trade: Certified Building and Certified A/C Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Plant City, Florida
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
They allow homeowners to do their own work on their homesteaded property, they still have to pull permits, get inspections and do the job per building code. If you think the building code does not make sense, you obviously don't know much about it, yes there are some glitches in the code, but most of the codes are there for a reason, and a reasonable person would be able to understand why the code is written. Building codes are MINIMUM Standards, you can always exceed the building code. |
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Ant D.
Trade: Construction Management, General Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Fairfield county CT
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
Thanks for popping in and giving the worst advice I have ever read. You were the inspectors whipping post because you are a hack and he knew it.
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General Contractor
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: St. Petersburg, FL Minds of moderate caliber ordinarily condemn everything which is beyond their range.
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?
Zig Ziggler once said: "You can get anything you want if you help enough other people get what they want."
Well that applies to the building department, their plans examiners, inspectors, and even the cashier. These are just people doing a job. A rather thankless job, at that. Despite the rather ignorant attitude prevalent among most of us in the building trades, they are not our enemies. But they ARE human. If you disrespect them, and give them attitude, and worst of all, lie, cheat or sneak around trying to "get one over", what do you honestly expect their opinion of you is going to be? Well, a huge percentage of us do just about all those things............... so do not be surprised if an inspector arrives at your job site with a bit of a prejudiced chip on his shoulder. Your fellow contractors probably gave it to him. Try to look at that man or woman and ask yourself, "What can I do to help this person leave here feeling better about me, my job, his job, other contractors, and himself/herself." You may not win yourself a prize for that attitude, but you sure can't hurt your case any. If they leave exactly the same person they were when they stepped out of their truck, you've lost nothing. If they drive away smiling, you are a leg up from thirty minutes earlier.
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Pro
Trade: Home Improvement General Contractor
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Location: NYC
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?
[quote=D.A.S.Anthony;599342]Thanks for popping in and giving the worst advice I have ever read.
FUNNY!
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Service & Repairs
Trade: Electrician
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Rahway, New Jersey
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
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Pro
Trade: building for 30 years. new homes , additions
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NY
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?
Well guys i hate to say it, but in my area we can do that job with out a permit or inspection .
There is no GC licence and if we don't rewire the place or move the sink location we can just have at it . We do our own plumbing most of the time . I always talk to the building inspectors before we start the job and lay it out for them . I don't like surprise inspections . I'm doing a job now , we removed the kitchen , bath room , wood and tile flooring 8 windows and doors 4 SQ of siding and added some lighting . The only thing they wanted a permit for was to change a existing fire place to a new wood stove ? Its a different story if you want to add on to a home . We have 6 inspections on a 16x20 crawl space foundation ? John |
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Scott
Trade: Remodeling
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Colorado
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
Is this your "primary residence"? In Colorado home owners can only pull permits if the home is where you live. If you dont live in the home then you will have to get a licensed contractor to pull the required permits and to perform the work. I run into this from time to time with people who are buying "flip" houses. If you live in the home then you can pull permits for almost any remodeling work you are going to do. |
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Pro
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Syracuse, Ny
Posts: 118
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?
Pull all proper permits and do it right. It should protect the next homeowner that buys your cobbled up place.
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New Guy
Trade: irrigation
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
you guys depend on those assholes to keep honest folks from doing their own work. i live in NC, and yeah, the building code sucks ass!!...ALL of the refit was overdesigned as per the monkey code.....R-21 wall insulation with polyiso thermal break, R-49 in the attic, yadda yadda... go to the Green Fiber website and watch a mock-up burned with "code" fiberglass insulation......all of the firestops are there penis breath!....go look, i dare ya! |
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New Guy
Trade: irrigation
Join Date: Feb 2009
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New Guy
Trade: irrigation
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?Quote:
these guys walk around with the latest chip on their shoulders because they have some sort of authority.....give one a hammer and watch him build any ****ing thing!!!.... most of them are security gaurd rejects, which puts them a few clicks down from the local police force rejects.....lol |
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Pro Deck Builder
Trade: Deck Builder
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Metro Detroit
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?
Whoopi............I guess your knowledge overtakes your good common judgement ......... pulling permits protects you as a contractor...!
Here in Michigan they have a very large penalty for not pulling permits on top of if anything ever went wrong with your non-permited work you would be held liable |
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Pro
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hennessey, Oklahoma
Posts: 6,057
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Re: Requirements For Pulling Permits?
Ok...this has ran it's course. Closed.
And whoopi, I don't think this forum fits you well...if irrigation is your trade, and not construction.
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