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Old 12-12-2008, 10:14 AM   #1
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remove glued and screwed sub floor

I'm putting an estimate together for a renovation and I guess I'm over thinking it, but I have to remove about 700 sq ft of tile in a kitchen and replace with 3/4" Brazilian cherry. The existing tile is 3/4" higher than the strip oak floors in surrounding rooms. I am guessing the tile was installed on some kind of 1/2"material on top of old floor and around here I would also expect it to be plywood glued and screwed. I have no idea, but that would be worst case scenario. I know there is no easy way to remove this, but anyone have any good methods they use besides dynamite.

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Old 12-12-2008, 10:47 AM   #2
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Det Cord works for me

If the tile was installed properly there should be sub floor / thin set / 1/2" cement backer board (or similar) screwed or nailed / thin set / tiles

Sledgehammer, pry bars, flat shovels, demo bars, & lots of patience is what is required
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:23 AM   #3
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Air chisel might be handy witht hat.
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:44 PM   #4
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Old 12-13-2008, 01:20 AM   #5
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rip 2' sections and have two guys work it with pry bars it goes faster then you would think. one guy breaks it but 2 you can pry it pretty well
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what 3 guys 2 days? for demo?
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:48 AM   #7
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what 3 guys 2 days? for demo?
Depends on conditions - around here I could probably get er done in a day with a helper - 2 helpers only doing the work would probably take 2 days

The one I think Warner or someone else ran into recently - was about three or days with 4 people
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Is the H O defidently having the work done? If so ask to remove a small area of tile as a sample. Then you will have a better idea as to what you are up against.
We had a similar job a few months ago (much smaller at about 150 sq. feet), What we found was a poured base with a metal lath nailed down. It only took a couple of hours. If it was plywood or another substrate glued and screwed it would have taken alot longer.
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I use 5 foot scaraper bars with a 7 inch blade. The bar is solid steel with a T handle and weighs about 20 pounds. This gives a lot of momentum and it goes through most nails. I grind the blade at lunch with a hand grinder to take the nicks outs and get the glue off. Turn up the radio and your ready to go.
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The one I tore up wasn't glued, at least the 3/8" ply wasn't glued to the wood floors. It did however have 2 layers of carpet, one glued down, then old linoleum glued to the ply. THen there were rink shanks on about 5" centers. It took like 2 days with 2 or 3 people on it.
I actually destroyed 2 shingle eaters doing it. Sore hands and butt load of nails.
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Old 12-13-2008, 04:18 PM   #11
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Det Cord works for me

If the tile was installed properly there should be sub floor / thin set / 1/2" cement backer board (or similar) screwed or nailed / thin set / tiles

Sledgehammer, pry bars, flat shovels, demo bars, & lots of patience is what is required
Not to get off point but what makes it proper to use tile backer meant for the wall for the floor instead?
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:22 PM   #12
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Not to get off point but what makes it proper to use tile backer meant for the wall for the floor instead?
Oops me bad - your right 1/4" backer normally not 1/2"
Guess I needed that 2nd cup of coffee this morning
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A little off-topic, but just an FYI... There is nothing wrong with using 1/2" backerboard on floors... I've done it when the added height was needed to match existing floors in other rooms.
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I use a maddox. It's like a pick axe with a flat bar in the front rather than a pick point. I swing it under the backer board (I'm very good shot) like a pick axe and then lift and pry.

Be careful near walls and cabs. Don't miss.
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