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Trade: Builder/Framing Co.
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
I know I can't be the only one with these problems...Let's hear them.
Guy #1 Married 8 yrs Shows 5 minutes early everyday on time ready to work. Busts ass and does a good job. Meets girl #2 Gets divorced, moves in with girl #2 starts drinking, showing up late if at all D.U.I.'s jail Bye Bye guy #1 Guy #2 Married 13 years (only piece ever) Hardest working guy I know. We would pull 16 hr days together and come back and do it again. Usually the first one on the job 30-40 minutes early EVERY day Never whine or slow down. Good leader material. Had him runnin one of my crews. Hooks up with the secretary of a builder at a goin away party for one of the superintendants. My employees start coming to me about how he stays on the phone all the time and does not do anything. I get a call from the builder about him not showing up to an appointment. Secretary gets fired because unknown to her the builder has a log of ALL phone calls in and out. Now she is at home all day and guy #2 starts leaving for lunch and coming back late. Guy #2 work ethic turns to crap. Always some excuse about leavin early or comin in late. Bye Bye guy #2 Guy #3 Married to a slut(sad but true)6 yrs. Good friend of mine never really did show up on time. always 1 minute late. I bitched about that, BUT he always had a good work attitude and never complained about anything. Gets a part time job at a local club Meets girl shows up 5 minutes later sometimes can't stay off the damn phone text messaging I call him guy #2 junior and he hates it, but still doesn't stop Guy #3 knows I am pissed and is working to stop his habits so for now he stays. Now about ME married 11 yrs. haven't been late in the last 3 years usually at least 25 minutes early and still have not had 1 employee out carry me in lumber Just so you guys know that I do TRY to lead by example. |
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Chief Toilet Mover
Trade: Bathroom Remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Posts: 14,078
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
Welcome to management. Managing employees is never really about the work, it's about the person. Start focusing on the man more than the job the man is doing and your problems will disappear.
If you think that, that isn't what it's all about, that it's about the work then get used to what you are going through because it will only continue. |
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Trade: Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago
Posts: 7,135
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
Mike,
Also, attempt to focus on the quality of a family oriented man. Having some unmarried young buck work 16 hour days, especially back to back is ludicrous enough unless their were exceptional circumstances. Now, add in the fact that he has someone to go home to and desires to spend his personal time with, then it becomes even more outrageous. Possibly, one or 2 Saturdays per year, do I have my employees or half the crew show up for required work. Then, it is either due to weather delays or upcoming forecasts of inclement weather, which may jeopordize the job productivity long term. (Such as a forecast for 6" of snow later in the weekend, so we better finish the job now, or else!) To increase the loyalty from a worker, the wife must be treated as if her families personal life and private quality time with each other have justifiable merit. They together, must know how much the owner/manager believes in that aspect. When they are brought in to believe in your values, they will, (if they are decent wives), make sure you have a loyal and reliable team player. Address the situation with both parties involved. Bring the worker and his wife/girlfriend/slut into a private meeting to discuss the distruption these seemingly meaningless phone and lunch minutes are creating. Outline the consequences and come to a written policy and agreement on how much, if any of this personal life will be tolerated. Ed |
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Trade: kitchen cabinet maker and installer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: near Swindon in England
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...Quote:
Or maybe it isn't as simple as that John
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Custom Fence Builder
Trade: Fence Manufacture and Installation
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 906
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
I gotta weigh in here...
Your thread title says "because of women". But the problems come from the men. The women in their lives are not responsible for the mens' actions. The responsibility lies with the men you're dealing with. I'm not saying that women are perfect (except me - HA) but when there is bad behavior, it lies with the person behaving that way. |
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DGR,IABD
Trade: Electrical; Commercial and Residential Service
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central PA
Posts: 9,680
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
The wages of sin isn't exclusively death. It's often preceeded by a loss of your job.
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You did what??
Trade: Carpenter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North of Atlanta
Posts: 6,601
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
Can I be guy #4 ?...
40...and fat...and yeah, pretty much bald....wins gazonga millions in the lottery!!!....the turns into #1,2,3 after all the cash is gone (and the right wrong woman is found...again)....ahh, I can only dream.J |
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Trade: contractor
Join Date: May 2006
Location: east
Posts: 3,309
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
Checkmate - I think everyone knows those situations
guy agrees to adopt girlfriends kid - she turns around and dumps him but he is stuck with child support i just choose not to even associate with that social class ... but i know exactly what you mean |
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Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 103
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
What ever happened to the phrase 'dont **** where you eat', I guess I am too old school and practical to bring my personal problems, if any, into the work site arena,
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Trade: Builder/Framing Co.
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 112
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...Quote:
But you know what I mean.
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Trade: entrepreneur of excavating expertise
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,605
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
can i come to work for you? geesus, all you people are getting more on the side than i'd ever dream of getting at home!
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Re: Reliability Of Employee Because Of Women...
I think it is more of a maturity issue. It takes maturity and responsibility both to maintain a stable relationship and it requires both of those to be a good employee. Some have it, some don't. Nine times out of ten, you'll find those who are truly committed to a relationship and accept all the responsibility that goes with that, also place priority on their job ethics .
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Woman in a Man's World. |
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