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Home Improvement Guy
Trade: Renovations contractor
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: toronto,Canada
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Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I'd say 75% of the time I do the jobs alone, on rare occasions, when it's a big job, I'll have 2 or 3 helpers with me. I could still do it myself, and make a good buck, but sometimes the customer expects the work to be done in a short period of time. Obviously, I'd like to get out of there and onto another job asap.
My questions are...Do customers ever give you a hard time for working alone, rather than bringing in a crew and getting the job done quickly? Do they think that a "one man show" is cheaper or less professional than the "big guys"
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Drywall finisher
Trade: Drywall
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Florence Alabama
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I've never had anyone give me a hard time due to me working by myself. Like you if I need help to get the job done in a reasonable time I get help. These days I've had way too much work to be by-myself so my brother helps me, but I won't get anybody else cause that effects my pocket too much. And even worse I would have less control over quality. I miss being by myself though, this last week I had four smaller jobs going, I could have easily done them on my own but since I had such a good month, and I could still make a pretty good check for myself I let my brother work, it wasn't many hours but he wasn't sitting at home. Well on friday when I paid him he got all pissed about how low his check was.
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Pro
Trade: General Remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Tonawanda, NY
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I have never had anyone say it directly to me but There has been some jobs that seem to drag out that I can feel that the HO is just wanting it done.
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Trade: Fence Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I actually get compliments, or at least good comments on all the work I do myself. Just last week my customer told me I must be strong as an ox
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Trade: One on top of Two
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Location: Indiana
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"Quote:
Unless you have a completion date in your contact with the HO, etc., it shouldn't matter. The price is the price. It shouldn't matter if you show up by yourself or with 20 guys.
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Pro
Trade: Outdoor contracting: fences and decks
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"Quote:
Many times, the customer will complain that they "didn't hire a professional company" to get just one guy. They forget my delivery truck, my dump truck driver to pick up the old deck or fence, my foreman who comes around to check, my office manager (my wife) to take the phone calls and me (or my salesperson) to sell the job. 90 % of the time, when the job is done and is a work of art, they forget any complaints, however! |
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Property Manager
Trade: Drywall/Textures/Paint
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 375
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I thrive to work by myself. I've taken on helpers over the years at larger rehabs or repaints.... but I see no reason to now. After having an "experienced" helper botch a paint job, I will only work by myself. I'm happier that way.
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Trade: remodeling general contractor
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
We do get some customers who start geting impatient on larger jobs, but never anyone who got really nasty. We do high end renovations/additions and most of our clients are either repeat or direct referrel, so we are there for the quality, not wham bam speed.I.m sure some think a small operation should be cheaper, but a joking reminder that the trucks we drive were not donated, nor tools, nor our insurance costs, etc. They catch the idea quickly.
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Pro
Trade: Renovations
Join Date: May 2005
Location: West Coast Canada
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
Like you, Ron, most of my jobs are done solo. When I've got a re-roof or larger framing job I'll get labour help, but usually not for the reno type stuff. Never had a customer mention it yet.
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Trade: Electrical; Commercial and Residential Service
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central PA
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I do know that some people prefer to hire a one man show. They believe (and possibly rightfully so) that his overhead will be lower and they will be getting a better price. I have a good friend who can afford to hire whoever he wants to do just about anything he needs done around the house. He prefers to seek out the one or two man operations.
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Finish Carpenter
Trade: Finish Carpentry
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: St.Louis, Metro East
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
My customers know in advance that I work alone. A lot are repeat customers, so I figure they like my one man show. I try to stay with just finish carpentry, but sometimes you have got to take a job you. are not crazy about just to keep busy. I'm pretty content, and I think my customers are to.
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Master Craftsman
Trade: Rustic interior woodwork
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Southwest Mo.
Posts: 666
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I play off of the fact that I work alone. I tell the customers that I can keep better control of quality.
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Class A Contractor "BLD"
Trade: Remodeling and home improvements
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
Worked myself to death the first five years in business as a solo operation.
Now have 1-2 full time employees on a consistent basis.....this frees me up to service the client by answering questions/hand holding which turns into more work! SOME clients think if you are a one man op that you should be cheap. MOST will not award you the BIG jobs because they want turn around. Once you learn to manage employees/subs your profits will go through the roof compared to being solo.
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Chief Toilet Mover
Trade: Bathroom Remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Littleton, Colorado
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
Md hit it on the head, some customers seek out the 1 mans and others want a bigger company. People have said all sorts of things to me, some get the perception that we are a small one man and have even said they like to do business locally with guys like me and others have said they wanted the confidence of having a bigger company like mine to deal with and stand behind the work. People who find us through a local paper service directory think we are a one man shop and people who find us through the BBB's link to our website think we are huge.
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Pro
Trade: Carpenter by trade, lead man for commercial GC...
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 937
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
Most of our clients are repeat or referred as well. Never had a problem with how long a job takes to get done. More like the clients are impressed that one guy does almost every aspect of the job and has the talent to do so.
Just finished a job today for the Government (two offices added in an existing space). Met with the project manager for the Government and she was blown away at the quality of the work. Told her I did everything from the demo, the framing, the boarding, the taping, the painting, the install of the doors and sidelights, moving a light fixture, moving a hvac diffuser, and putting on the rubber cove base... Only thing I didn't do was move a light switch (our electrical sub did that - I won't touch 340 volts)... It only took me a week to do this job and the big thing is the client is thrilled with the results. Keep on going you guy's who are talented one man shows... People will appreciate the quality (if they have a brain)!!! |
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jack of all, master of 1
Trade: carpenter/roofer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Front Royal VA
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I grew up in a production framing world, so to speak, so I work fairly fast for a one man show. As I've been told there are advantages, and disadvantages to a one man show.
Disadvantage of course, the timeliness. But that's made understood at the beginning, and if you can hit your timelines you're allright. Advantages: The worker that's building it, has a vested(SP) interest in the quality of the product since it's his rear that's on the line. When you parlay what you want to the manager, sup., estimator, or whoever, your dealing with the builder directly so there is no communication breakdown formed. Some enjoy the safety of it as they don't have to worry about whether the owner/manager has done background checks on his employee's. There's more, but there are, in some peoples minds, advantages to the one man show.
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Trade: Residential and Commercial Remodeling
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: South Orange County, CA
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
We've used it to our advantage at times. Sometimes people feel more comfortable when there aren't going to be a bunch of strangers in their home. Different strokes for different folks.
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Pro
Trade: Plastering, Drywall, Painting, Woodworking, Stucco
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Eastern Michigan outside of Detroit.
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I have had people ask while on a estimate if I'll be doing the work or will a crew of guys be doing it,
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Pro
Trade: Renovations
Join Date: May 2005
Location: West Coast Canada
Posts: 1,716
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
"I told her with all the Babyboomers retiring she is on the right path to a good living. and she doesn't have to deal with all the plaster dust."
...or sick people.
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Pro
Trade: Custom deck builder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado
Posts: 4,325
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Re: Question For All You "One Man Shows"
I also am a one man show... And I have had a few people not beleive that I do it myself. I have one customer that I did 3 decks for and now a garage. One of the decks was 20' off the ground. Another one had a 20' beam that was roughly 250 lbs. (keep in mind I am 5'3" and 140 LBS) He was home the day I set the big beam and could not beleive I did it myself. He told me later a neighbor asked how I could possibly lift and place that beam myself. And he told him "He just did it, it was amazing"
I like being a one man show. You guys are right, a lot of people like to see the owner doing the work. Some want things done a little quiker and is fine by me. You cant win them all.
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