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Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
Hey guys,
Well I've been away from this site for a little while as I've been really busy trying to keep things together and also starting another company (non construction) but I've decided to use some of this time to redesign some of my house plans. I've heard a few ideas and come up with a few of my own for realistic green applications. I live in Portland Oregon which is probably the green capital of the nation. Our buses run on biodiesel and natural gas, we have an extensive mass public transit service and quite a bit of it is free in the downtown area, a tax paid recycle program that works very well and is no longer inconvenient. The only thing we separate is glass. Everything else goes in one big 75 gallon can they give us for free. It's made our city much cleaner and our water better. We already have the hardcore green people here who are using alternative building products and I've checked into some of that. They do work and they will become more mainstream. The problem is that most of the general public just isn't willing to pay for it yet. The ideas I'm looking for are stepping stones for them to pay for serious energy conservation items down the line. Most of the big green ideas, I believe, are flawed from 1 of two standpoints. 1. They are too expensive for most people to decide to actually use them. People say it's nifty and if it comes on my houses cool but if it costs extra they opt not to include it. Well if it's standard on the home my base price has to go up and they still don't want the extra costs (especially in tough markets). Or 2. They don't actually work well and just change the problem. Like using corn as a fuel source. It takes 200 gallons of fresh water to create one gallon of Ethanol. It might help oil concerns but soon we'll have fresh water concerns too. Sooo I'm looking for good, practical, inexpensive ideas that will help reduce waste. Ideas that I can implement into my new homes as a base feature that don't cost me much extra to do that people will love and will set my homes even further apart from my competition. Some of my ideas are: 1. A outside area where we can roll up the recycle and garbage cans next to the house and have a chute from the kitchen to the cans. Right now we fill tubs inside the house with recycle then almost daily take them outside to dump them into the big can. I'd like to make it so it goes directly to the outside can, same as the trash. Just a more convenient way to live. 2. Either a master switch or switched outlets where you can turn off the electricity to a large area with the flick of a switch. Here we're hearing a lot about unplugging items that waste electricity without even being turned on, well that's inconvenient. It's hard to climb behind stoves, microwaves, computers, stereo stands, etc... to unplug them. What if there's just a switch you flip at night or while you're at work that turns all that off, or even a timer. it'd be easy to wire in these switches during construction without a lot of extra cost. I'd like to hear more ideas from people who actually build these products and homes, remodelers and handy men, any one who has a good idea. Then we can take these ideas and incorporate them into all our products. Thanks, Wack
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
I like #2. In Thailand, all but one of the hotels we stayed in had a master switch for the rooms power that was activated by inserting the room key into a slot just inside the door. Brilliant!
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
Wackman, dig through the older post at www.green-talk.com , the author built a "green house" and updates her blog a few times a week with green products, green projects and other green thoughts. I forget the name but I belong to a green building forum where ideas are shared. Some of the sites listed on the left side of the green-talk site have some good green building tips.
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.Quote:
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
I have said it before....The "Green" Buzz is waining. It CERTAINLY is not dead, but the "Bandwagoners" are falling away more and more day by day.
THIS IS A GOOD THING! It is a weeding process.
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I can't think of any important building company that was not present at one of the shows with their lines of green building products. I scored a free waterless urinal that I will send to you if you promise to use it.
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The whole fricking thing is green with a roof top swale and some sort of hemp based cladding that you trowel scratch and finish stucco coats onto. He's already priced most of it out and said it'll be around 8% more expensive over all to build. Not too bad really, I don't believe that will prove accurate but if that's all it costs more that's not too shabby. It even has a corner unit "see inside" window where the edges of the window are plexi and you can see the section of the wall and the layers of construction. Cool idea. I can't see the green movement slowing down, if any thing It'll become more realistic and only things that actually work will prevail instead of any thing with green in the name like it is now. Any way you slice it conserving energy and alternate fuel sources is going to become paramount real soon.
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
You can use your old egg cartons to sort and store your change.
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
The cheapest green thing you can do, is to build smaller well designed homes.
Smaller well designed in itself is not always necessarily cheaper. But it is cheaper to heat and cool, and generally uses less materials. Don't try and get into all the new green gimmicks, if used on a poorly designed home it still wouldn't be better than a well designed efficient home. Last edited by Kgmz; 11-25-2008 at 10:33 PM. |
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
Xeroscape, I'm slowly doing it. One of the nations largest providers of groundcovers is in your backyard. No lawnmower, no irrigation system (not that irrigation is one of your problems) LOL. The groundcover co. is actually in WA., saw it on TV.
Plant deciduous trees where they will shade the house and windows during the summer and allow light/heat in during the winter. If possible orient the home for maximum passive solar use. Make maximum use of overhangs/porches. The old timers weren't slouches when it came to these things and knew their sun angles. Monticello, designed by Jefferson is a very good (famous) example. Solar waterheat and panels might not be suitable for your area (works great here), maybe geothermal is more suitable. Wind generators??
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
A bunch of companies are rolling out these types of green living roofs. Funny, odd, out of place, ugly, wacky idea........it will be interesting to see if it catches on here in the us since the idea is doing well in other areas of the world.
Note: this display is using young sod that has not aged enough to produce flowers. Once the roof is about a year old is looks great IMO.
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
Now they just need to genetically engineer the roofgrass to make it's solar collecting abilities power the home and instead of releasing CO2 to release hydrogen to be collected and power our cars!
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
I have always had this habit of letting my finger off the trigger of my circular saw and letting it coast through the last part of the cut, Nowdays I kid people and tell them I am trying to "reduce my carbon footprint"
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
Wackman,
Since you're recycling almost all your trash you might find it usefull to know that there is a company making a composting unit that is designed to go under your sink and not stink up the house. This isn't the model I originaly saw, but here is an example: http://www.williams-sonoma.com/produ...sh%2Drecycling |
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
For the record and being the nay-sayer that I am, at this stage of the Recycling Game................Recycling anything but Aluminum and WHITE/CLEAR Glass is NOT in any way, shape or form GREEN!
The amount of Energy consumed in the retrieval, delivery, separation, distribution, processing to bulk, re-distributing, reforming and shipping again to the end processor is a GREAT BURDEN on the atmosphere and Natural Resources! But it eventually will become an Environmentally Economical Endeavor! Eventually.
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In time it WILL become "Green". And actually turn a profit, which it does not do now.
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Re: Practical GREEN Ideas That Don't Cost Much, Part 1.
1) Incorporate Native Plants in Your Landscaping 2) Plant Deciduous Shade Trees to Reduce Energy
3) Plant Evergreen Trees to Block Cold Winter Winds 4) Use “Xeriscaping” in Your Landscape 5) Supply Efficient + Non-polluting Reel or Electric Lawn Mowers 6) Convert to Drip Irrigation Systems 7) Cut Down on Energy Use with Solar Powered Landscaping Lights 8) Supply Rain Barrels to Irrigate + Landscape 9)Composit 10) Use Natural + Organic Products and Techniques for Landscape Maintenance 11) Supply a Small Kitchen Garden of Fruits + Vegetables Last edited by RED HORSE 554; 03-16-2009 at 04:47 PM. Reason: adding things |
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