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Old 05-29-2009, 05:38 PM   #1
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Pork Chop Eave Returns-how To I Kill The Ugly?


I am currently working on a house that has a lot going for it except for the pork chops that are completely out of context with the "old world" style of the house. BESIDE the colonial/bird house/cornice return, is there another way to make it disappear? There are two places it's been used, both have brick and stone going all the way up to the eave, so it's not like a clapboard house at all. I should also mention that the owner went with the swoop end to the roofline in both places and it would be nice to offer an "old world" solution.

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Old 05-29-2009, 05:46 PM   #2
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Here are some options.

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Thanks very much, I was really looking for another option beyond this, as this is the perfect solution for colonial style, but not for the kind
of the house this is.
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Here are the photos you requested. It's hard to see the returns because of the paint overspray, but now the tyvek's off they glare. Any creative solutions (even ones you've never tried) are much appreciated. Since we took over this job, I'd like to hit it out of the park.
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Like neolitic said, a picture or two would go a long way to helping you. I have absolutely no idea what a "pork-chop" is. Is it a roof return of some kind?

I would kike to find out though.

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Like seen here, but often even uglier. We see a lot of dormers with this style return and it's just awful. It's not nearly as noticeable on a clapboard or similar home, but put it with any other style architecture and its a crime.[IMG]file:///Users/mae/Desktop/images.jpg[/IMG]
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Do you know why they do the returns like that?
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There are other ways around it (check out jackarnold.com) but the roof is already on and I'm at a loss for how to retro-fit it. I don't think ripping off the eave and starting over is an option...
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Can you see it from your house. Does the owner Hate it. If you answered yes to #1 Too bad. # 2 is a different sotory however.
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That is odd. I've never heard it called a pork chop, always dog ears. Guess it's that regional thing again.

If you've got some CAD talents, I'd draw it out for the customer and show them. Fugly is a word that comes to mind with that roof.
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That is odd. I've never heard it called a pork chop, always dog ears. Guess it's that regional thing again.

If you've got some CAD talents, I'd draw it out for the customer and show them. Fugly is a word that comes to mind with that roof.

the Korean siding guys around DC call them that.
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I have absolutely no idea what a "pork-chop" is.
When I first saw this thread I thought I was the only one that had no clue as to what they were talking about. Glad to see there are others.
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I would use some really, really good BBQ sauce and grill them up with a ring or two of pinapple. Call me when they are done and I will help you get rid of them.
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Pork chops seems to be
a "Southernism."
Hereabouts, they's bird boxes.

Is it gonna be bricked?
Maybe try and get a
storybook thing going on?
Sort of Hansel and Gretel?

Can't seem to find a pic,
but I've put a sort of ogee
deal down there sometimes.
A double curve, rather than
a straight vertical.
......Clear as mud, right?
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Yeah, I've heard a number of names for this kind of return, too. I think the term pork chop is appropriate, if derogatory to pork chops. In answer to Naptown CR, I disagree. It matters that the customer gets the best design possible, regardless of whether they are aware of the (ugly) impending outcome. I also have a reputation to protect and would rather not have my name attached to an "almost-good-looking-house." If anyone has ideas about a possible solution I am still interested in help. PLEASE. I want to make this a good project. Thanks.
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You type too fast.
Will look for pix later.
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Thanks, I'll see if I can trim it down and see about the ogee. A storybook thing was what the customer was going for, and got strong-armed into the barge board and return by the framer. The framer said it was the only way to do it. The original design had no barge board I found "pork chop" in a bunch of online pieces, and a book called "Get Your House Right." That's why I used the term, we usually say boxed eave return. How do you think you'd go about executing the change?
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Honestly, I can't make out
anything but brown blobs.
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