Plumbing Licenses

pyroracing85

Thanks a lot. That one is more specfic than contractor-license.org.

This is good because I am going to be getting my A.A. in about 2 more semesters. Now I need to get a plumbing job and get into a foreman position.

pyroracing85

Well it finds out that I have my A.A. in engineering already...

I now need my B.A. or two years on the job..

The plumber

In Texas you have to get an apprentice license just to work under a plumber. You can get a tradesman license after 4000 hours, journeyman license after 8000 hours 1 year after your journeyman you can test for your masters. General contractors are not allowed to touch plumbing here without getting a nice little fine. Every state is different though

747

in the state of Illinois a plumber holds a license through the health department. Its not a hard license to get. Back when i was in high school i drove a plumber in his car to springfield to get his license. He wanted to study on the way down. He went in around 8 out by 3. He said it was easy. They had him do stuff that he considered simple. That was back in like 78. I asked my plumber he said something about a health license is what he has.

L. B. Condulet

This is a scam that has been going on in CA forever. General Contractors are allowed to do any trade if there are 2 more trades involved. And everything requires "Painting and Plastering".

If you look at CraigsList, half the electricians advertising to perform electrical work are really not electricians, they are GCs. It's easy for a GC to take an electrical job and simply pull 2 additional trade permits to make it legal.

But General Contractors are not specialty contractors, they are not even close to being a professional licensed plumbing contractor, for example. Yet they advertise as if they are specialists and the public is none the wiser to this scam.

Here's the actual law:

General Building Contractor
7057. (a) Except as provided in this section, a general building contractor is a contractor whose principal contracting business is in connection with any structure built, being built, or to be built, for the support, shelter, and enclosure of persons, animals, chattels, or movable property of any kind, requiring in its construction the use of at least two unrelated building trades or crafts, or to do or superintend the whole or any part thereof.
This does not include anyone who merely furnishes materials or supplies under Section 7045 without fabricating them into, or consuming them in the performance of the work of the general building contractor.


(b) A general building contractor may take a prime contract or a subcontract for a framing or carpentry project. However, a general building contractor shall not take a prime contract for any project involving trades other than framing or carpentry unless the prime contract requires at least two unrelated building trades or crafts other than framing or carpentry, or unless the general building contractor holds the appropriate license classification or subcontracts with an appropriately licensed specialty contractor to perform the work. A general building contractor shall not take a subcontract involving trades other than framing or carpentry, unless the subcontract requires at least two unrelated trades or crafts other than framing or carpentry, or unless the general building contractor holds the appropriate license classification. The general building contractor may not count framing or carpentry in calculating the two unrelated trades necessary in order for the general building contractor to be able to take a prime contract or subcontract for a project involving other trades.


(c) No general building contractor shall contract for any project that includes the "C-16" Fire Protection classification as provided for in Section 7026.12 or the "C-57" Well Drilling classification as provided for in Section 13750.5 of the Water Code, unless the general building contractor holds the specialty license, or subcontracts with the appropriately licensed specialty contractor.



Notice that a General Contractor must only sub out C-16 and C-57 work. If a General Contractor wanted to advertise that he re-pipes houses, all he has to do to fit through the "Paragraph B" loop hole is to pull a permit for patching and painting.

The fact that General Contractors can and do masquerade as specialty contractors is one of the reasons this industry is broken. We need reform in the construction business, LOTS of reform. The first place to start (in California) would be to close the Paragraph B loop hole.

Ron The Plumber

Or by Home Depot

Driftwood

Just read both threads. Plumbers and electricians are a little peeved that SOME G. C. don't need them.I've been in the trades 45 yrs. I do very neat work and know My trades. I'm an old carpenter at the core. I was, and still am a Cert. welder. Was in the pile bucks union. Have all the plumbing tools to do any job.
I also do all our elec., along with My Son[36 also a licensed G.C.] I have a dump truck,backhoe and large shop. L B is sore because our work is signed off by the inspectors, and always above code and neat! I may even charge more than He does. Yes there are hackers out there,some even have c-10s.
Cheers , Drift

KillerToiletSpider

How well versed are you in health code?

Why is a porcelain floor sink required as an open site drain in a commercial kitchen?

Does your insurance cover the effects of a cross connection you make that poisons the water supply of a municipality?

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Driftwood

Hey Killer ,Your Name speaks volumns! Stick to totos . What's the trap arm on a monkey?

The plumber

I've been to the dentist a couple of times, and I own a dental pick that does not make me a dentist though. Anyone can fix a leak, solder, and glue pipe. Don't feel special and gifted. It's doing it in a way that is legal,sanitary, and will last that counts.
Went to a widow of a g.c/engineers house to locate a sewer gas smell and I found the condensate drain dropped straight in the sewer without a trap below the slab. Without thinking I asked what idiot plumbed this house? Can you guess her answer? true story I swear
----30 hours of on the job plumbing training does not make you an expert it makes you dangerous. 10000 otj training would give you a leg to stand on.
Can I borrow your seat wrench for an Indiana brass faucet since you have everything needed in plumbing?

newguy07

Just curious how are you in plumbing AND electrical

Driftwood

Plumber,You don't know Me or My work. I was leading ci in 1959,Boston.
2 uncles ran a 17 man shop. What were You doing in 59? past My c-36 Ca.
Again, I DON'T NEED YOU GUYS!

The plumber

In 59 I was -17 years old. Point proven, you're older than me...If I need a light bulb changed I'll call you. If I need my house rewired I'll call a licensed electrician.

KillerToiletSpider

Thanks for not answering any of my questions, it proves my point.

The plumber protects the health of the nation, and anyone that performs that work without a license is endangering not only themselves, they are endangering everyone that lives there. I would not be surprised if the next outbreak of Legionaries disease happened because of one of your jobs.

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Driftwood

Killer toto, I am not Your student,I have the answers You need. check the upc
for Yours. End of My time for You. CHEERS

KillerToiletSpider

If you were my student, you'd get an F, upc code is a joke.

I'm damn glad your hack skills are not employed in my state.

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Plumber

Here in Inianapolis IN . To install sewer lines from lateral to house you have to have a G.C. license. If you have a PC licenses you can do it except the PC CAN NOT enter the right away. This is what really frost my A$$, the state makes me go to so many hrs of class, have ojt time, and take a test to get my journeyman or contractor license which is issued by the state board of health. (doesn't sewer lines out side of the house health related?) But some guy desides to be a G.C. pays state $200.00 or 295.00 depending on year plus a $10,000 bond, sit in a class for 2 hrs and ZAZAM new born G.C. Don't get me wrong some G.C. are good guys but some bozo with a G.C. has the right to wire, plumb, HVAC, and rebuild or build anything!! with couple of $300.00- $395.00 total and 2 hrs of class. I would like the state tell me why they don't have to take classes or have ojt time? Unless I'm miss understanding something here? I don't believe they even have to test for their G.C. license.???

Sorry to vent a little but just

Driftwood

Thats' interisting,As a ca. gen. I replace old clay ,terra cotta laterals all the time. Plumbers also do! Your state has a strange law,I'd be upset also

Kingfisher

"Can't We all just get along"

KillerToiletSpider

That is bizarre.

In Illinois, if you do not have a plumbing license, you can't perform any plumbing work, and if you do not have a drainlayer's license you can't do any sewer work, but a plumber can install sewers. On inspections here, if a plumber's license is not shown, or shown record of, all the plumbing work has to be ripped out and started over, and a stop work order will be issued on the job until this is done.

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