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Old 11-02-2017, 10:05 AM   #21
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Kind of depends on "who". I know quite a few very responsible folks that I am not afraid to loans something too, because I know they will return it and they will replace it if they damage it.

My policy with my son and son in law is my tools don't leave my shop. If they ask to borrow something to take home, I generally tell them I'll just buy it for you. Since they both own homes now, tools are always good gifts for them.

Freeloaders on a jobsite get explained to them that they need to buy their own tools if they intend to work in the trades. In our business, we have a very specific list of tools you are expected to acquire and have with you every day.
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I've got one buddy that we swap tools often. In fact we have keys to each others shops. If you're going to take something, let me know ASAP in case I'm in need of it that day.

Otherwise,
NO! Period.
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I usually only let people borrow a tool if I have two of them. It never seems to fail that when I lend a tool I end up needing it the next day.
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Rent it out. Make up a contract about payment. He's making money off your investment for free. If he's a good friend, charge a bit less than the Home Depot. Nothing in this world comes for free. Just how I was raised maybe



In 2008,did some work on a contractor friend's home. As soon as I was done, a guy we both know calls him up,asks if he can borrow my scaffolding. Contractor friend of mine calls me and asks what I want to do. He even suggests he will draw up material list and agreement stating time frame and "penalty" for late return,but no fee if returned on time. I said o.k., I think the guy had three months. Bottom line,3.5 years later and numerous calls,I finally got my scaffolding back (after I drove to retrieve it) + not able to collect one single dime.

Needless to say,to most guys out there,I'd rather lend them my tooth brush than any tools.
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if you feel awkward saying no to a good friend
IMO, if they are a good friend, you'd lend them a tool because you'd be OK by telling them "don't make a habit of this" at the time.
And if it came back damaged, tell them to buy you another one.
And if they are a good friend, they'd have no problem with any of that.

Good friends don't sponge off of good friends, so telling them that up front is setting the boundary. And respecting boundaries is what good friends do.
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Almost every time I've lent a tool out I've regretted it. I think the type that feel the need to borrow tools are the same type that don't take care of them.
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Almost every time I've lent a tool out I've regretted it. I think the type that feel the need to borrow tools are the same type that don't take care of them.
I agree. If they can't gather enough money for a tool, probably lacking in the area of taking care of tools also.
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Nope. If they cannot afford to buy it then I know they cant replace it.

Had a guy borrow my almost new riding mower one time, 122 hrs. Mowed less than 5 minutes and threw a rod through the engine case. Why? He thought hed do me a favor and change the oil on it for borrowing. Used too heavy a weight. Destroyed it.

Loaned out my 16 flatbed to a lady, she picked up 3 round bales on it 30 miles away and never latched the hitch. Dropped it on a railroad track and bent the entire tongue of it.

Nope. No more

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IMO, if they are a good friend, you'd lend them a tool because you'd be OK by telling them "don't make a habit of this" at the time.
And if it came back damaged, tell them to buy you another one.
My few good friends would never make a habit of it, so that's a non-starter.

And none of them would even consider returning something in poorer condition than when they borrowed it.

I don't have many good friends, but those who are, are.
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I think the type that feel the need to borrow tools are the same type that don't take care of them.
Sheesh, you've never had something happen where you needed something and although you had it at home, didn't have it with you?

I was working as an employee with another employee and due to this employer being so far behind, we were playing catch up on work...so I needed a hammer drill for something that normally in this trade I would have never needed one. I have three of them at home in one 1 hand size, one 2 hand size and very big rotary hammer size.

So I borrowed co-worker's new battery operated hammer drill combo and ran down the battery to nothing, but got the job done.
One of the things some of us balance is not bringing our tool shop with us, especially if we are an employee of someone else and our job doesn't require a lot of traditional construction tools.

Plus, one can usually tell from how one presents oneself whether or not they are worth a **** or not. Is their tooling professional? Do they present themselves professional? Or stoners using cheap tools thrown about?
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For me depends on what the want to borrow anything specialized is off the table your not ****ing up my test equipment at my expense to learn.

Small hand tools I generally don't mind

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I rarely lend out a tool, burnt to many times. i like the renting out idea tho.
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IMO, if they are a good friend, you'd lend them a tool because you'd be OK by telling them "don't make a habit of this" at the time.
And if it came back damaged, tell them to buy you another one.
And if they are a good friend, they'd have no problem with any of that.

Good friends don't sponge off of good friends, so telling them that up front is setting the boundary. And respecting boundaries is what good friends do.

My actual good friends (the ones who actually use tools) aren't the type to be borrowing tools, but if one did need one, I would lend it, because I know they are the type to respect tools and especially other peoples property. That said they never ask.

It is always the friend/acquaintance who I am on good terms with, who seems to be comfortable asking some pretty big favours that way. I guess I just assumed they would own up to damaging something and let me know and replace it, because that is how I think. But sure enough, the next time I go to use the tool, something is up, or it looks like it spent the whole time in a pile of garbage on the floor, all scratched up or whatever else.

I would probably just offer to come over myself with my tools and help out with whatever needed doing, instead of giving tools to someone that asks. Either they are in the trades and really should have it, and why don't they? or they are a weekend warrior, who might not really know what they are doing or how to use a tool properly.
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What has really pissed me off- in the past in on jobsites, where some numbnuts whose tool box looked like it vomited itself up dozens of times, turns to my organized tool container, storage bins, whatever else, and I walk up and they are rifling through my stuff to find something.. what I say WTF they are like "oh do you have a chisel" I say WTF louder and they generally know not to do it again. Most aren't bad guys, but come on, ask first at least.

I've also been on sites where I've come back from lunch, some tile guy is ripping a piece of wood on my table saw, probably covered in mortar. That pisses me off as well.. glad I work on my own small jobs mostly.
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There are only 2 people I would ever lend my tools to. I've spent too much money on those tools to have some douche canoe screw them up.
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There are only 2 people I would ever lend my tools to. I've spent too much money on those tools to have some douche canoe screw them up.
I commend your use of one of my favourite combinations of words, douche canoe.
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Sheesh, you've never had something happen where you needed something and although you had it at home, didn't have it with you?

I was working as an employee with another employee and due to this employer being so far behind, we were playing catch up on work...so I needed a hammer drill for something that normally in this trade I would have never needed one. I have three of them at home in one 1 hand size, one 2 hand size and very big rotary hammer size.

So I borrowed co-worker's new battery operated hammer drill combo and ran down the battery to nothing, but got the job done.
One of the things some of us balance is not bringing our tool shop with us, especially if we are an employee of someone else and our job doesn't require a lot of traditional construction tools.

Plus, one can usually tell from how one presents oneself whether or not they are worth a **** or not. Is their tooling professional? Do they present themselves professional? Or stoners using cheap tools thrown about?
I can't determine someone's worth in a moment's notice. You borrowed an co-worker's tool because your company needed something done that you don't normally do? So what?

Yes, I've forgotten a tool a few times. Went back and got it.
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I've also been on sites where I've come back from lunch, some tile guy is ripping a piece of wood on my table saw, probably covered in mortar. That pisses me off as well.. glad I work on my own small jobs mostly.
I had nearly a full sheet of 1/4 mdf in the garage on a site. Came back and the tile guys ripped the whole sheet into a bunch of strips on my table saw.
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My few good friends would never make a habit of it, so that's a non-starter.

And none of them would even consider returning something in poorer condition than when they borrowed it.

I don't have many good friends, but those who are, are.
I've got a handful of people who can borrow anything I own & I usually go with those tools, free of charge, because when the shoes on the other foot, they'll do the same for me. But that's a short list & the answer to everyone else, is only if I come along & bill you by the hour.

Last winter, one of those guys was helping me cut some brush for our disabled deer hunt. He grabbed my 25 year old chainsaw & tried to start it. It kicked back as he pulled the rope & ended up pulling the side out of the cover. Within a week, I had replacement parts for my saw in the mail. Even though I assured him, the old saw would have probably broke on me next time I used it. Course, that's why all this guy has to do is ask & I'll always say yes.
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What has really pissed me off- in the past in on jobsites, where some numbnuts whose tool box looked like it vomited itself up dozens of times, turns to my organized tool container, storage bins, whatever else, and I walk up and they are rifling through my stuff to find something.. what I say WTF they are like "oh do you have a chisel" I say WTF louder and they generally know not to do it again. Most aren't bad guys, but come on, ask first at least.

I've also been on sites where I've come back from lunch, some tile guy is ripping a piece of wood on my table saw, probably covered in mortar. That pisses me off as well.. glad I work on my own small jobs mostly.
I had one guy tip my small parts bin trying to see what I had in it I'm talking hundreds of small connectors.

That one pissed me off.

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