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Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
We have had mostly female Painters.
man Hours? woman hours? hours? person hours? Now what?
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
In the military decades ago, like 1970's, the term ServiceMan was changed to ServiceMember so they became politicaly correct or whatever and could keep the same "SM" on paperwork/forms.
That was an easy solution for them. But, ManHours....hmmm....That was taken from mankind and man vs animals, long ago? I think woman hours is awkward. Plus the hours between man vs woman does not usually need to be seperate. Labor hours, person hours, human hours...I like labor hours, IMHO. |
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
"Man" is a sufficiently generic term for the human race without regard to sex, and does not necessarily mean "males". I struggle not to put much intellectual effort into such frivolities.
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
Let me just say this. If I was the type of person that got offended..
I WOULDN'T HAVE A JOB!!!!! I used to work for this HVAC guy (until he retired) who would refer to the women he was talking to on the phone as , Dames, Broads, B*itches, and I am sure you can think of a few more. Did I care? NO! As long as no one called me that. For the amount of men I have worked with, I could be living off of sexual harrassment lawsuits right now! So I will stand alone - with no united female front, because most women will think I am horrible, and have no self worth because I don't get offended. But ya know what? It is what it is!! I get the run around from time to time because of my female voice on the other line, and it can be aggravating, but I like my man to be a man, and he likes his woman to be a woman. I have better things to worry about than how people are phrasing things.
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
The term never offended me!
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
Same here, but I am George and you are ...Doug?
Labour hours was a good suggestion.
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
boy, people have way too much time on their hands, or they are so insecure with their gender, that they have to worry about terminology that was established yrs. ago. there is nothing derrogatory, nor sexist with the words "manhours"...my response to any woman whom that bothered would be...."something really must be irritating you, you do know the adhesive strip goes towards the panty, don't you?"...
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?Quote:
Well said. ANd on the whole issue, sometimes it depends on frequency, tone of voice, implied intent, intuition. Maybe safer to avoid it all together. Applies to sexual harrassment. Two people can say the same thing but ya gotta factor in intent. At first that seemed unfair. But I discussed it w/ my sister, JIW electrician and she pointed out intent. Body language and tones speak loudly, kindof like "picture speaks 1000 words":. But I hate to hear of a woman taking advantage of the above. One bad apple..........IMHO |
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
nobody can call me sexist. the best pipelayer i've EVER had was a woman. she worked for me for 3 yrs. until she got married and decided she wanted to have a family and stay at home with them. it isn't/wasn't my intent to offend anybody here. i just think this whole thing has gone overboard. we as employers are close enough to our checkbooks to know that in reality, an employee is nothing more than a tool...now wait a minute, you're going to say that's cruel and cold...BUT, a good tool, whether male, or female....you take damn good care of. bad tools you get rid of.
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
The best wife I had was a woman, the best mom I had was a woman, but the best dancers are on the "MAN SHOW".
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
I would have ever know that, yea, the panty strip thingy, I guess that either makes me a total fag or or real stud,
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?Quote:
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smiley - he is supposed to represent jester - joke! Typical man - twisting my words around!
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
with all the PC going on these days, I've begun using the term "PWHours" It seems more fitting
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
If you Google "man show boy", he has 4 or fice video's
Selling beer hitting on chicks (could not resist the term) on the beech selling girl scout cookies helping old farts to cross the street buying butts, spank mags, and beer (funny) hitting on chicks in front of a college? |
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
I decree that it will be hence-forth be known as "warm-body hours".
Make it so, Zulu. |
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
Warm Body Hours?
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Re: Man Hours. Is It Sexist?
This is silly to worry about. If someone is this moronically PC then I don't want to work with them, for them or have them working for me. You need to have at least a few layers of skin to keep the blood in.
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