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Old 09-29-2009, 04:33 PM   #1
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Low Cost Grab Bar Installation


Good afternoon guys,

I've designed and built several really nice ADA bathrooms this year. Very happy clients. No problem installig grab bars because we put 2x10's, 2x8's, 2x12s between the studs, behind the drywall and/or tile.

I've encountered a situation where I'd like to help someone who doesn't have much $ but really needs some grab bars installed. I've seen lots of sites which advertise anchors. I've put it a zillion toggle bolts, molly bolts, and other anchors over the years.

Can a few of you relate your experience with Moen anchors, or other brands of this newer type hardware, to secure grab bars where you know there isn't much of anything else in the wall between the studs?

This is a big guy and I'd rather tell him we'll just need to find him some financing so we can tear out his shower and do it over, rather than have him get hurt by grabing a grab bar and having it pull out or pull out with a chunk of drywall attached. Don't want him to get hurt, he's got enough medical problems already.
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Old 09-29-2009, 04:34 PM   #2
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Re: Low Cost Grab Bar Installation


Theere are custom manufacturers that willl make a grab bar to attach to the studs in your particular situation More expensive but cheaper than tearing out tile.

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You could get a custom sized grab bar made.

Or if you can locate the studs you can use a standard size and mount on a slight angle to hit two studs.
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You could get a custom sized grab bar made.

Or if you can locate the studs you can use a standard size and mount on a slight angle to hit two studs.
I agree here...
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If you have access to the back side of the shower, can you cut an opening in the back side and add blocking, then patch the wall. It would be cheaper then redoing the shower.
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Theere are custom manufacturers that willl make a grab bar to attach to the studs in your particular situation More expensive but cheaper than tearing out tile.
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You could get a custom sized grab bar made.

Or if you can locate the studs you can use a standard size and mount on a slight angle to hit two studs.
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If you have access to the back side of the shower, can you cut an opening in the back side and add blocking, then patch the wall. It would be cheaper then redoing the shower.

Great Ideas Guys.
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You could look into these.
I only weigh 180, but I have stood
on them and bounced.
They are the only hollow wall
anchors I trust for this.

http://www.wingits.com/
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The low cost grab bars are in the same aisle as the low cost Shower light..

Ask mike where they keep the shower lights at
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You could look into these.
I only weigh 180, but I have stood
on them and bounced.
They are the only hollow wall
anchors I trust for this.

http://www.wingits.com/

I used thier commercial ones (GBW40) on my house and they feltjust as strong as going into studs. only thing is that my house has wire lath and mortor for the tile so I am not sure how they would be on concrete board.

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Good afternoon guys,

I've designed and built several really nice ADA bathrooms this year. Very happy clients. No problem installig grab bars because we put 2x10's, 2x8's, 2x12s between the studs, behind the drywall and/or tile.

I've encountered a situation where I'd like to help someone who doesn't have much $ but really needs some grab bars installed. I've seen lots of sites which advertise anchors. I've put it a zillion toggle bolts, molly bolts, and other anchors over the years.

Can a few of you relate your experience with Moen anchors, or other brands of this newer type hardware, to secure grab bars where you know there isn't much of anything else in the wall between the studs?

This is a big guy and I'd rather tell him we'll just need to find him some financing so we can tear out his shower and do it over, rather than have him get hurt by grabing a grab bar and having it pull out or pull out with a chunk of drywall attached. Don't want him to get hurt, he's got enough medical problems already.
Why not cut the sheetrock/or whatever on the other side of the shower? Sheetrock repair isnt that big of a deal. No matter what anchor, sheetrock is sheetrock, put in wood. Do it right.
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Thanks guys for taking your time. We'll check out a few of the ideas. You guys are great.
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You could look into these.
I only weigh 180, but I have stood
on them and bounced.
They are the only hollow wall
anchors I trust for this.

http://www.wingits.com/
Those look pretty badass!
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Why not cut the sheetrock/or whatever on the other side of the shower? Sheetrock repair isnt that big of a deal. No matter what anchor, sheetrock is sheetrock, put in wood. Do it right.
What if it's brick veneer?
Sometimes it just seems best
not to let the perfect be the enemy
of the good.
I have mostly used them where
folks were currently using the "handle"
on the ceramic soap dish as a grab bar.
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If its a tight budget job, get a nice piece of 5/4x4x24''. secure it to the wall into framing, then mount the bar to that. G
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Probably of no help, but I have this:


14. Grab Bars
Recommended:
Plan grab bars to facilitate access to and maneuvering within the tub and shower areas.
Tub and shower walls should be prepared (reinforced) at time of construction to allow for installation of grab bars to support a static load of 300 lbs.
Grab bars should be placed at least 33"-36" above the floor.
Grab bars must be 1 & 1/4" to 1 & 1/2" in diameter and extend 1 & 1/2" from the wall.




Now you have it.


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http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/b...sign.rules.htm
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14. Grab Bars
Recommended:
Plan grab bars to facilitate access to and maneuvering within the tub and shower areas.
Tub and shower walls should be prepared (reinforced) at time of construction to allow for installation of grab bars to support a static load of 300 lbs.
Grab bars should be placed at least 33"-36" above the floor.
Grab bars must be 1 & 1/4" to 1 & 1/2" in diameter and extend 1 & 1/2" from the wall.




Now you have it.


Here is some other stuff:
http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/b...sign.rules.htm
Next time I get an 85 year old
guy, living in his 1963 tract house
who's just had his leg amputated,
I'll show him that!
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Next time I get an 85 year old
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I'm guessing you had no idea I am a fountain of useless information
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Next time I get an 85 year old
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who's just had his leg amputated,
I'll show him that!
Neolitic, You hit almost directly on it: the guy is retired, he IS living in his tract house and if he doen't get off his feet, his diabetes may require amputation in the future.

I'm going to try the wingits.

I LOVE YOUR QUOTE about not letting perfect win the war over good. God, I wish I'd said that one. That's a struggle I've been engaged in for most of my career and even before. (Probably need counseling )

If, however, I ever have a pastry question I'm asking Celtic.

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