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Trade: LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
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Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
When i was 19 a large job fell on my lap. I took this job with little experiance and alot of determination. Often, i would walk around the jobsite at the end of the day in peace and quiet, and ponder---"HOW THE HELL AM I GOING TO GET THIS PLACE BACK TOGETHER". It was one of these afternoon walks that i realized i needed to break the job down in my mind, this was not a $400,000 dollar job---It was on 400 $1000 dollar jobs. At that moment much of the anxiety lifted. This lesson has served me throughout my life in countless ways. What are some of the things that this business has taught you. G
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Professional Instigator
Trade: Design Build Remodeling Contractor DC MD
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Washington, DC/ Maryland
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
No matter what it looks like, how bad its damaged I can fix it. I have worked under the worst conditions in the worst locations for the worst owners and always get it done.
Knowing this keeps me calm as the sea. Who's bad! Last edited by rbsremodeling; 06-30-2009 at 09:54 AM. |
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Eater of sins.
Trade: Designer/Drafter Extrordinaire
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orange County, CA.
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
It has taught me to try and provide the best value that I can, instead of the best price I can. That I need to work by myself, and to get out of the contracting part altogether.
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Finishing Carpenter
Trade: finishing Carpenter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Coquitlam B.C. Canada
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
lessons learned! I am still learning
- never ever upon pain of death buy materials on my dime, get a check first from the HO (I got really lucky, the HO's husband gave me a check a few days later) - no estimates over the phone - have a minimum call out on # of hours, ie: fix a shelf in a condo - went out, did the work, then HO wanted to nickel and dime me. (thinkin to refuse those type of calls, no parking, pita door policy etc) - make a big deal to HO about dust and noise!!!! - Never again will I fix up other trades bad work!!!!! it can come back to bite you (someone poured a concrete floor, and pushed up underneath old baseboards, I had to grind the "lip" down to install new baseboards-nope, not doin that again) - let HO's know that my compensation doe's not allow them to help me! the last thing I need is a HO to put an 18ga pin through their hand. (it actually doe's cover them, but I don't need the problems) - pick up and delivery of materials is "ON" the clock!!!! - some checks (not all) I got to the issueing bank and have it certified (guarenteed) cost's me $15 bucks, but it avoids problems later. - Ask the customer for referrals! getting more business lately due to that. -keep focussed on the job at hand, do not go on and on how bad the work is that you see in their homes- say nuttin!!!! talk about the weather if you have to say something. - dress neatly! no one likes a junkie wannabe in their homes. get a hair cut, and shave. or trim whatever- Idea here is not to scare your customer.(saw this when I worked in Vegas afew years back, we had a guy who was a great worker, but with no front teeth and dressed like he slept in the street.... we couldn't take him to customers houses) - I take pics, before and after- just in case.... - don't negotiate with low-ballers, your price is your price. Live with it. - be willing to walk away from a job that you feel will go badly (had a call-150' crown, what's your price? my plumber and I put up some in the rest of the house yada yada- I get there, front entry? 17' high! he figured I should be around $400!!! and he'd help etc.. hmmmmm $1,600 with 1/2 up front- he "declined") - I don't give a price per foot! some folks do and it works for them. I find that I just calculate it on $35/hr and I know how many feet/hr I can do finished) more lessons to be learned as I encounter them! lauriescustomfinishing.ca - - - |
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DavidC
Trade: Remodeler
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NNY
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
Every time I figure I've finally seen it all or know enough I find out I'm wrong.
The fewest problems arise when everything is in writing and you follow the manufacturers instructions. Good Luck Dave
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I'm a Mac
Trade: ICF Construction
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Hog Town
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
Everytime I run into an issue I just think...I didn't invent this, I am not old enough, someone else has had this issue before...start calling the old timers I know, one of them has the solution.
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Trade: home remodeling
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tulsa OK
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
If someone gives me a hard time, resolve it on the spot, no interalization or carrying around hard feeling. Dump it where I found it.
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You did what??
Trade: Carpenter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North of Atlanta
Posts: 6,601
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
Always have a contract....always
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Service & Repairs
Trade: Electrician
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Location: Rahway, New Jersey
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractorQuote:
Thanks G! |
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Professional Instigator
Trade: Design Build Remodeling Contractor DC MD
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Washington, DC/ Maryland
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
My second is that I figured out my guys really are that good.
My first trip away after being in business in DC. I left for a vacation with work in place. I thought it was going to be a nightmare, I went over everything with my guys, but left scared as hell. I came back and everything was done. No fires to put out and the homeowners were all happy. They really new what they were doing and did not need my help When i came back I asked them what did they need, their replied just our checks |
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Trade: framing/remodeling
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Location: NE Ohio
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
I had a similar experience in 08. I went to Brazil for 2 weeks and left the crew with a couple days of work (we were slow at the time) When I returned, I learned that they completed everything nicely and had started another job that I had never seen or heard about. It was for a preferred builder that we had done a lot of T&M work for in the past.
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Trade: Landscaping
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
A pissed off client will tell everyone, a happy client will keep their mouth shut.
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Trade: LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
FOLLOW THROUGH, whether it be a good business plan, or a good book, follow through is important to success. When grinding out a job, not finishing is not an option. Finished Job= Final Payment
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You did what??
Trade: Carpenter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North of Atlanta
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
Communication is key.
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Trade: Ornamental Plasterer/Restorer
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You did what??
Trade: Carpenter
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Location: North of Atlanta
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
alright, go change your shorts
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ampman
Trade: providing pathways for electrons and protons
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: central florida
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
also you have to know the ins and outs of your trade which only comes with time put in.
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Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hennessey, Oklahoma
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
Always remember, a box has six sides. To be effective in this business, you must be able to solve problems. Until you learn to not see only one side of the box, you will never be able to handle complex problems or issues.
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Trade: Electrical
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Central Texas
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Re: Lessons Learned As A Builder/contractor
I think one of the best lessons about contracting came from watching squirells. Store the nuts away while they are on the ground so you have plenty when there's none around.
Stay active. Don't spend every dollar you make. Know it won't always be as good as it is. Don't fret, it won't always be as bad. Do it all again tomorrow. |
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Trade: Control Systems
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