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Old 10-29-2007, 04:32 PM   #1
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Laser Measuring? Any Good Enough To Replace The Tape?


I hang crown by myself and would pay a pretty penny for a laser measuring device good enough to measure for my cuts. I see a lot used for estimating, but I haven't found an opinion one way or the other for actually measuring a wall and then using the result to cut the crown, etc. any advice?

I'm also looking for a laser to shoot my guidelines on the wall. Auto level, but can also be set out of level if needed. Cheap as possible for something that works. Anyone using one for crown? Rotary or five line? What's the difference with point to point and line, etc.

I looked at jambset and was very interested. But when I called, they were such ditzes they scared me off.

Lastly, anyone know of a good site that actually explains all the types and features and what they do? Researching this has become a real booger.

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Old 11-02-2007, 02:50 PM   #2
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Re: Laser Measuring? Any Good Enough To Replace The Tape?


What's a tape?



http://www.geosolution.com/LaserMeters.htm

http://www.advancedlasers.com/page16.html

http://www.makepeace.com/index.html?...arget=d43.html

http://www.youna.com/Products.asp?reqCat=Lasers

http://www.vsijrw.com/Products.asp?CategoryID=Levels

http://www.measureandlevel.com/subCa...sp_Q_catID_E_4

http://www.allenprecision.com/cgi-lo...ront.pl?cat1=2

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measuring tape
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There will be a write up in JLC Magazine very shortly reviewing a laser measuring tape written by a friend of mine from another forum.

Since I read read the draft copy already, I will tell you that overall, the review was very surprisingly good for the product.

When I get to my office, I will see which laser measuring tape brand was the one reviwed.

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I don't have one,yet,but my buddy has a Hilti PD 38 and it is awsome.

http://www.us.hilti.com/holus/module...-18460&fview=1
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I can not divulge any portions of this article, but the one I spoke of earlier is this one, which rated very well and user friendly.

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Stanley FatMax Laser Measurer:

The Stanley FatMax Laser Measurer is built by Leica Geosystems has a street price of $99.00/ and includes a battery and a belt pouch.
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I'll check it out. The Fat Maxc has a positive review on Amazon and is the cheapest I've looked at for true laser measuring. I may buy it at HD or Lowes for the return policy. Stanley's pursuit of the DIY market has me a bit leery. That'll also give me some first hand experience with laser measuring. I hope it works even if I have to go for the pricier Hilti or PLS.

Thanks again!

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GOB,

please besure to post a report on your experiance. IMHO,

Lasers ok to estimate, but cutting crown to a nice tight fit...don't think so.
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Excuse the ignorance but I have no experience with these tools.

When it says accurate 1/4" within 100' is that only the accuracy of the beam or is it the length also?

Would a laser like the Stanley Fat Max measure to the back of the tool as if it were up against a wall. Is this something that can be adjusted front to back?

How visible would a laser like this be outdoors? I know I cant see my chop saw laser unless I'm in the shade.
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Excuse the ignorance but I have no experience with these tools.

When it says accurate 1/4" within 100' is that only the accuracy of the beam or is it the length also?

How visible would a laser like this be outdoors? I know I cant see my chop saw laser unless I'm in the shade.
Typically, that means if you get a measurement of 57' 6.5", it can be off by 1/4" either direction or the smallest unit of measure is the 1/2". Typically the more money you spend the better the accuracy. So you just have to ask yourself what you want to use it for and how accurate you need to be. Crown molding/finish carpentry: a 1/4" doesn't cut it. Sizing a room for Sqft/Wall covering, flooring: Should work rather well.

As for using outdoors, I've found it works fine. On longer distances, you might need a spotter (more because of my vision). It works better than chop saw lines because its not diffused to make a line.

I use my stanley fatmax about 50% of the time, but it can't completly replace a tape measure. You can measure openings but not cut lengths without a target plate. A must have tool for estimating in my opinion. Though I am wondering if I should spent more for a better product with more vesatility.
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www.disto.com

the "affordable" model is the A3 and it has a distance of 325 ft and is accurate to .06 of an inch


will not be the cheap option for sure, but you cannot get them more accurate or over such long distances. I have an insurance adjuster buddy who has one, and absolutely loves it.

And for a conversation piece, this is the brand they used in the movie "The Italian Job" when they were measuring how much to paint the explosives on the ceiling.
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I can not divulge any portions of this article, but the one I spoke of earlier is this one, which rated very well and user friendly.

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Stanley FatMax Laser Measurer:

The Stanley FatMax Laser Measurer is built by Leica Geosystems has a street price of $99.00/ and includes a battery and a belt pouch.
The Fat Max is a good one, but if you need a brighter laser beam, up to 4 times brighter the one to go for is the Lasermark 58iLMXL Mini Laser Cross Level
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I have and use a Hilti PD 42 every day. Love it and it was worth every $500.00 I spent on it. It does SF, SY, etc. etc.
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I got my fat max a few months ago and love it.I bought it on ebay for 45.00 plus shipping.Its great for demo estimating
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I am interested in the
Leica DISTO™ A6




It's in the $500 range

They claim 1/16" accuracy at 200 meters (656 feet)

I watched a guy use his Bosch to measure a piece of Pine Liner that was about 15' long. It was a pain for me to extend my tape measure out and get the measurement in the first place.

After I had taken the measurement and marked the board...he tried the Bosch. It was dead on the same length...in 1/3rd the time and 1/10th the effort. The Bosch is only good up to 150 feet or so.
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I use a Hilti PD-40...great tool.
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I did a kitchen a few months ago, I used a tape to layout and design the kitchen. The contractor I sold the cabinets to used the laser.

My measures for 2 walls and his.

144 1/4" His laser 144 1/8

122" 122"
We were within 1'8" of each other. But he was faster.
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I use the Hilti for base and crown mouldings as it is more efficient. While I trust it, I think if I was measuring a kitchen I would use a tape..just to be certain. I have tested my laser randomly and found it to be within 1/16th when it isn't dead on.
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Lasers are the future. Before long one will wonder how they ever survived without one.
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Lasers are the future. Before long one will wonder how they ever survived without one.

..just like air powered nailer's were some 20 years ago..

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