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Old 10-16-2014, 07:49 AM   #21
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I wouldn't want to deny an employee of his paycheck regardless of how he leaves BUT I wouldn't take too kindly to a sneaky move like that. I would have put a stop payment on the check and reported it as lost or stolen.

I figure that if I didn't give it to the guy personally or I didn't tell him that he could go get it, it's stolen. I think about someone like that taking their check to one of those no-ID check cashing places, getting the money, and then coming back and asking for their check.
that would be kind of a doosh move Ted.

Huggy saw the guy get the check---- he KNOWS it's not stolen---- it would be a blatant lie to report it stolen---and basically you are suggesting to just eff with the guy because you can.--- to what avail ???

the guy quit--- he got his money--- move on to the next one.

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I wouldn't want to deny an employee of his paycheck regardless of how he leaves BUT I wouldn't take too kindly to a sneaky move like that. I would have put a stop payment on the check and reported it as lost or stolen.

I figure that if I didn't give it to the guy personally or I didn't tell him that he could go get it, it's stolen. I think about someone like that taking their check to one of those no-ID check cashing places, getting the money, and then coming back and asking for their check.
Ted wtf? Why drag that **** out?

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most people don't want to spend an extended period of time working one on one with the boss.

they find it stressfull
most people would rather work most of their time with peers----where they can share the camaraderie of the misery of the particular moment

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Depends what the boss is like. My last job I got along with the boss famously. If your boss is an asshole I could understand the problem.
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Ted wtf? Why drag that **** out?



Depends what the boss is like. My last job I got along with the boss famously. If your boss is an asshole I could understand the problem.
did you and your last boss spend a lot of time knee deep in turds, digging out a sewer line---day after day just the 2 of you ????

just saying.....
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did you and your last boss spend a lot of time knee deep in turds, digging out a sewer line---day after day just the 2 of you ????

just saying.....
No, but there was enough fishing wires through million degree attics which isn't much more fun.
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No, but there was enough fishing wires through million degree attics which isn't much more fun.
You forgot to mention the vermiculite insulation and the shreds of wood in it left over from the shake shingle roof that used to be on the house.
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You forgot to mention the vermiculite insulation and the shreds of wood in it left over from the shake shingle roof that used to be on the house.
Its the fire rated stuff that looks like little yellow fiberglass balls that I really hated. It's more coarse than the attic cat stuff and really lodges itself in your skin.

Or crawling through an attic and putting your hand in a nice fresh mound of raccoon ****.
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the guy is an outdoors men and farmer...he owned a trailer up north where he goes on weekends w/o running water....the guy pees in bushes more than he pees in toilets.

i think the problem has been pointed out over and over in previous posts....who wants a PART time job as a Laborer with 0% chance e for advancement.....the answer is no one.....

i like my latest idea of getting a kid at the local technical college or just using a temp service.....

the guy is obviously scared to confront me about quitting....maybe he's been burned before and not gotten his final check?...who knows the baggage he has from previous jobs....maybe he's done this over and over before.....i never really got to know the guy that well...he was quiet.
Have you thought about offering a paid coop to kids coming out of college? Or even a non-paid coop and throw them some $$ at the end of it.
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did you and your last boss spend a lot of time knee deep in turds, digging out a sewer line---day after day just the 2 of you ???? just saying.....
While having to poop in a Gatorade bottle.
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I know a couple guys I wish would find that kind of motivation to quit...
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that would be kind of a doosh move Ted.
Huggy saw the guy get the check---- he KNOWS it's not stolen---- it would be a blatant lie to report it stolen---and basically you are suggesting to just eff with the guy because you can.--- to what avail ???
Somewhat of an old thread but I'll still answer.

If helping yourself to your paycheck is normal protocol or if there have been times in the past when I've said, "Your check is in my truck. Go get it." then I wouldn't have an issue with it. But if the employee took it upon himself to go into my truck because he wasn't man enough to ask me personally, then I'd consider that theft. Even though I owe you something that you earned or something that you are otherwise entitled to, it isn't yours until I present it to you.

Also I think about if the guy says that he never got his check because he thought that nobody saw him take it. That would cause me a bigger problem if I don't proactively report the theft.
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I stand by my statement Ted.

it's the employees money.
He earned it.
Yes its SOP maybe to wait untill it's handed to the employee----- but it's STILL the employees money all along

to eff with him just because you can---- still a doosh move

BTW--- yes--- maybe it IS kinda weasely on the employees part---- but it's STILL his money
I swear--- some folks spend so much time screwing with the employees, the ex employees, the former employers, the customers that look at them cross eyed, ex girlfriends whatever----- it's a wonder anyone has time to get any work done.
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to eff with him just because you can---- still a doosh move
Not just because I can. That's hardly the reason at all. The fact that he would be sneaky would make me wonder what else he took from my truck.

It's sort of like if I do work on your house and we agree to a price. When I finish the work and if I see some money sitting on your bedroom dresser, should I just take it? After all, I am owed money for my labor so if I just take the money and walk out, I'm sure you'll eventually figure out that the work is done and whatever money you're missing is probably what you were going to pay me.
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but Ted--- that's not remotely the situation huggy described

I figure--- the guy has quit, he's paid, he's gone---- why on earth would I want to prolong the drama ?
all this getting even and "what if,what if,what if,what if"

I have already moved on with my life before the guy even gets his car started, LOL
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It's not about getting even with the guy or prolonging the termination. I just wouldn't take too kindly to someone circumventing the process even if they were quitting.
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It's not about getting even with the guy or prolonging the termination. I just wouldn't take too kindly to someone circumventing the process even if they were quitting.
Ted your advice is terrible.
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Then I'm a douche. Don't work for a douche like me unless you have the fortitude to man-up and ask me for your last check.
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I kinda have to agree with Ted.
Maybe it's the way my mother raised me. I dunno?
I would never consider sneaking into my boss's vehcile, after showing up late, grab my check and leave. She always told me she could live with me killing someone but if I ever lied or stole she'd kill me herself.

Granted I never had an issue getting or keeping a job and always tried to give my bosses a week or two of notice before my last day. My last non construction job before getting in to the local I could only give a few days notice. I was told to expect a few weeks to months before going out to work as an apprentice. We had an orientation meeting where they were asking "who can go out tomorrow?" I tried walking the line between respecting my previous boss (we are still friends) and not missing out on starting my apprenticeship.

Anyways, I was told by my dad growing up that early is on time, on time is late and late is unacceptable. I was told a hand shake is as good as a contract and that a real man always keeps his word because at some point it may be the only thing he has. And I was always told that if its important it should be said face to face.

Something about not being man enough to show up and say face to face "hey, this isn't working out. Can I have my last check?" Just isn't right.

I have personal struggles with being early. If the job is far away i like to get there 1/2 hr early to unwind from road rage. I am awesome in that respect because I know how a difference of 10-15 min in leaving in the morning can translate to a vast difference in arrival time. However if its close by I am less inclined to be early and more often just on time. No one's perfect.

Never would I consider taking my check, unless someone is refusing to pay me what I fairly earned.
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I was building some 20 story condos in Florida in the 80's and could not find one of my guys.Went down a few floors and found him asleep in a bathtub.Found a piece of cardboard.Took my keel and made a note that said "When you wake up your fired" and placed it on the end of the tub facing him.Never saw him again.
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Not just because I can. That's hardly the reason at all. The fact that he would be sneaky would make me wonder what else he took from my truck.

It's sort of like if I do work on your house and we agree to a price. When I finish the work and if I see some money sitting on your bedroom dresser, should I just take it? After all, I am owed money for my labor so if I just take the money and walk out, I'm sure you'll eventually figure out that the work is done and whatever money you're missing is probably what you were going to pay me.
Cash is not the same as a cheque. A cheque is made out to an individual so it is obviously for them, cash isn't. Maybe that cash was there to pay the cleaning lady or whatever...a cheque with your name on it and a present date isn't meant for anyone else

I agree with you 100% that it's a crappy move to sneak into someones truck and if I saw someone doing it I'd call them out, but I wouldn't cancel the cheque. What would you get out of it? A tiny amount of satisfaction, but you also have to deal with this sh!t brain again. Get him out of your life and move on
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We were framing houses in a subdivision years ago. I hired this kid to labour for me. One day we had just finished lunch and were heading back into the house. The kid had just disappeared. He went in the front door and straight out the back and kept going. A week later his mother shows up wanting his cheque. I told her to have him come and get it himself as she didn't work for me. When he finally came to get it, I gave him proper ---- , as we had looked for him for 15 minutes thinking something had happened to him. That's because a different time a labourer had fallen down the beside the basement wall in a gap in the backfill and we had to haul him out by his shoulders. It was late in the year and they were backfilling with partially frozen ground.

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