Immigrants Taking Our Jobs?

Floorwizard

Fom another thread, I decided to start this one.
Please don't make me regret it. I just have a statement, and a question.
Usually I stay far away from this sort of content, but I thought "why not" on this one.
Maybe I will find out why not depending on the response.
Let's hope we are all respectful. Here goes.

Up here in Alaska, there are some companies anyone can work at. But when they hire, they will hire a Native who has the skills, over someone else who has the skills. These are the Native organizations, and it's perfectly llegal. I have no issue with this, because the unemployment is very low in Anchorage. And I would rather see a Native succeed rather than not. Natives have terrible disrespect up here, and some of the Natives totally deserve the disrespect, but other good Native folks may not get hired at some companies because of it. I think this helps balance some stuff.
My real comment is the talk about Mexicans (or Canadians) taking U.S. jobs. I used to live in Oregon, and recently visited California and toured some businesses.
There is a Carpet manufacturing company who hires mostly Mexican folks (along with alot of other companies I am sure).
What I witnessed was an amazing workforce. Theese guys and gals were doing work that nearly nobody I know would do, and they were doing it at an amazing pace and full of pride. They were working their way up the company ladder too.
Same with the Disneyland Resort. They were the most attentive and respectful employees at that place. Worked incredibly hard to make me happy, and nary a complaint or sour look.
In fact, it was the other White employees that slacked off and made my trip that much less enjoyable.
Based on what I saw, I have to say my opinion is that Mexicans are not TAKING any jobs. They are earning it. If some white folks wish they had a job that a Mexican got, perhaps they should work as hard to get it eh?
Now I know there are exceptions to every rule, but from my eyes, this is my opinion.

So here's the question.

Are people coming into this country TAKING jobs, or are we giving them away because we don't want it, or not willing to work as hard having it?

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Anybody from any country can take, earn or have any job that they can be awarded by an employer as long as they are legal immigrants. Even American citizens one generation removed from being imigrants have a long standing reputation of being critical of the next boat full of immigrants to hit the shores behind them. The Irish went through it, the Chinese building the railroads out west went through it, it has never stopped. Let anybody legal do anything they want and let the lazy American citizen get off his ass first and work just as hard as the immigrant he is pissed at.

Glasshousebltr

It's about the doe Flor. They work for half the money cause they can send it home and double it. That takes work from us that have to stay here and pay.

Bob

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Peladu

Americans are not willing to live in one house/apartment with eight other American families...Mexicans are. They can make the rent and still send money back to their family in Mexico, because they are all willing to occupy the same 750 sqft apartment.

I could say more, but Pancho just got here to clean my yard, and I have to get a beer and watch him work.

George Z

Perfectly said

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jmic

Peladu,
Maybe I'm just taking this the wrong way ,but that just sounds so wrong. You ought to be watching the little Chicitah cleaning the inside of yer house.

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MJW

Not just willing, but getting away with it.It's not just Mexi's eaither. Immigrants get away with no taxes and get to put as many people as they want into a house, apartment, or trailer house. Most people would be evicted or sent a nasty letter from the county and/or township.
All of this and they work for next to nothing. This is not good on our economy.

AAPaint

Well, you can say they're taking jobs nobody wants. They are stealing jobs from americans etc. My problem is when they are working illegally at $3/hr, not paying taxes, employers aren't paying w/c on those employees, and they're competing for jobs at a MUCH lower rate than the avg american can do them for, and in turn driving down industry rates. This is very noticable in Florida where a lot of people expect an exterior paint job to be $500!

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trample

I have managed crews both spanish, white, and even an native american crew from minnesota, the bottom line for me is some people care about the job they are performing and some don't. I also think that the ones hiring illegals, not paying taxes or w/c should be punished. other than that we are all the same if we try.

Floorwizard

So, if I am understanding correctly, when someone complains about Mexicans in the workplace, they are complaining about the illigals.
Because I was not seeing Illegals at all.
I just want to make sure that when someone complains about legal Mexicans working a job they want, I can slap em around for complaining about it.

What about the illegals? If they have a crew underbidding you, shouldn't it be easy to get em out?

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Floorwizard

Also, just to clarify something.
Packing into 1 home is not just so they can save money.
I have seen filthy rich Mexicans, Lithuanians, and others pack a big home. They love living with each other.
I am sure alot of them do pack together to save money, but I am sure they would do that anyway.

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AAPaint

I'm not saying anything about mexicans. I've worked side by side with illegal or questionable mexicans that will put almost any white boy to shame for $3/hr 16 hours a day if need be. Not only that, but they are damn good with their hands....you'd be surprised the methods they come up with to accomplish things in the field...at least the one's I knew way back working at a huge nursery.

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JustaFramer

Depends the quality control in rough frame has went to hell. But I don't care you get what you pay for. And until GC's of the tract nature start tossing out the trash the hack n' tracts will surely implode into law suits. When that happens I see the Union taking more market share in the residential sector.

Melissa

I love it!!

I don't have a problem as long as they come over legally and pay taxes like the rest of us. But usually they're illegal, and not only do they not pay taxes but A LOT of our tax dollars go towards them! I live in Los Angeles county, so you don't even want to get me started!

Usually they want $8 bucks an hour and lunche! And none of it is taxed! They hang out in big groups by all the Home Depots and solicite themselves. They get so close to your car and yell, they're lucky they don't get hit! Some humanitarians even made a HD down her set up a shelter for them and water for them or something like that. I don't know, because I stopped watching the news. It makes me so mad.

And on another note, it just brings the industry down as a whole. We have such a hard time finding good help, because now young guys don't want to get their hands dirty. They figure that's a job for Mexicans.

Bone Saw

I wouldn't mind it (and freetrade outsourcing) IF:every last employer of these types (illegal imigrants) were to pick up the full tab on local, state and fed taxes and everyone else paid none, and upon their (illegal imigrants) arrial and subsequent "amnesty" incentive had to serve a mandatory 4 year army or marine corp infantry tour. There is no such thing as a free lunch!

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A+Carpenter

I have heard allot about this out sourcing thing lately

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Floorwizard

How come immigration isn't called?

I know you may laugh at that, but I want to know more.

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We have had a series of illegal immigration articles in our paper this last week because 4 different vehicles crashed on 4 different highways and on average 25 illegals spilled out of them!

The INS pretty much said we could pull over vehicles on our highway that fit our criteria and get 8 our of 10 that had illegas in them. But we don't have the jails to even hold them all temporarily till deportation!

They inteviewed counter people at the truck stops along this route and they said they don't need any special resources to figure out which vans are full of illegals, it's so obvious when two guys get out of the van and order 25 hamburgers to go!

Melissa

That's a good question.

I guess because they are very protected around here by the liberals. It's probably against the law to assume that they are illegal. Kind of like racial profiling I guess.

Bone Saw

Who is he? Dubya.

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