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Old 09-05-2009, 07:09 PM   #21
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These answers like "if you don't know, you shouldn't be doing it" is pure crap.
I suppose that goes for structural items also?

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Shouldn't see why not. Not all of them off course. My parents asked me to knock 3 walls through into an extension we had added onto our house. Got my mates who were ground workers around and they took the windows out, concrete lintels out and put the acro's in until we got the new steel lintels. Problem was we didn't know the size. Got on a building website and asked the guys what the correct size and type of lintel was needed and showed them pics and gave dimensions and they told me what was needed. Still standing after 5 years. Double checked with a guy who was local architect we done a few bathrooms for and he said they were the correct size. Didn't get none of the tree fidys, Get someone qualified, Your not allowed to do that, You ain't got license, Your not insured, Your a hack or any other childish comments you see on here. If a guy wants to have a go at something then let him do it. No skin of your nose, nor mine. If i cant be helpful in a thread i don't post. If we are all pros and knew what to charge and have all the work in the world then we wouldnt need this site. Not everyone has 20+ years experiance. Even if they did im sure there's still a lot they dont know. What next. Plumbers not allowed to ask about plumbing problems, Sparkys not allowed to ask about wireing problems, Roofers not allowed to ask about roofing problems.
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Shouldn't see why not. Not all of them off course. My parents asked me to knock 3 walls through into an extension we had added onto our house. Got my mates who were ground workers around and they took the windows out, concrete lintels out and put the acro's in until we got the new steel lintels. Problem was we didn't know the size. Got on a building website and asked the guys what the correct size and type of lintel was needed and showed them pics and gave dimensions and they told me what was needed. Still standing after 5 years. Double checked with a guy who was local architect we done a few bathrooms for and he said they were the correct size. Didn't get none of the tree fidys, Get someone qualified, Your not allowed to do that, You ain't got license, Your not insured, Your a hack or any other childish comments you see on here. If a guy wants to have a go at something then let him do it. No skin of your nose, nor mine. If i cant be helpful in a thread i don't post. If we are all pros and knew what to charge and have all the work in the world then we wouldnt need this site. Not everyone has 20+ years experiance. Even if they did im sure there's still a lot they dont know. What next. Plumbers not allowed to ask about plumbing problems, Sparkys not allowed to ask about wireing problems, Roofers not allowed to ask about roofing problems.
I wouldn't call you a hack for doing that, I'd call you a careless, thoughtless idiot. You weren't certain, so you asked a bunch of guys who had no business giving you structural advice, but you put it in anyway, then you had an architect look at it. Any one of those people stamp it before you did any work?

The usual protocol is get it designed first, STAMPED, submit, then put it in. Unless you are an engineer, messing around with structural when you have no clue is not only dangerous to you, but others around you.

Plumbers asking plumbers, electricians asking electricians, roofers asking roofers....OK. A handyman doing structural work....not OK.

So...if you think that's OK, then I guess it would be OK for anyone to fly a commercial plane. Can't be that tough.

These are still standing too. Doesn't mean it's safe

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I wouldn't call you a hack for doing that, I'd call you a careless, thoughtless idiot. You weren't certain, so you asked a bunch of guys who had no business giving you structural advice, but you put it in anyway, then you had an architect look at it. Any one of those people stamp it before you did any work?

The usual protocol is get it designed first, STAMPED, submit, then put it in. Unless you are an engineer, messing around with structural when you have no clue is not only dangerous to you, but others around you.

Plumbers asking plumbers, electricians asking electricians, roofers asking roofers....OK. A handyman doing structural work....not OK.

So...if you think that's OK, then I guess it would be OK for anyone to fly a commercial plane. Can't be that tough.

These are still standing too. Doesn't mean it's safe


Like i said. It's not your problem so why worry about it. I'm not saying thats the way it should be done. I see more posts from people on this forum moaning about it not being done properly because they aint pro's than giving advice that helps the person. If you calls your self an expert and want to help the guy then post something that helps him. If not then don't reply to the thread. I Don't understand why people are so worried about what others are getting upto. Do you check out your window every 15 mins to see what your neighbors are doing?

Also just so you aware in the UK you could go into any builders yard and buy a Lintel of any type and fit it without any of the things you call stamps. I should have said this was in the UK. Most of the builder yards will even tell you what type you needed anyway.

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Like i said. It's not your problem so why worry about it.
It is my problem. Anything to do with another human being on this planet is my business.
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Like i said. It's not your problem so why worry about it. I'm not saying thats the way it should be done. I see more posts from people on this forum moaning about it not being done properly because they aint pro's than giving advice that helps the person. If you calls your self an expert and want to help the guy then post something that helps him. If not then don't reply to the thread. I Don't understand why people are so worried about what others are getting upto. Do you check out your window every 15 mins to see what your neighbors are doing?

Also just so you aware in the UK you could go into any builders yard and buy a Lintel of any type and fit it without any of the things you call stamps. I should have said this was in the UK. Most of the builder yards will even tell you what type you needed anyway.
Great... another post from the handyman superstar that gets structural advice off the internet.

It's all of our problems people like you giving all of us a bad name.

What happens if next month that structure fails? Who takes the blame and who pays to have it fixed?
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If you don't know, or are not qualified to do something, why not hire the guy who does know, work with him, and maybe learn something.

If you do it yourself you are taking a huge risk as far as liability goes. I don't do plumbing, electrical, hvac etc. just for this reason.

Maybe guys do hack work, then sell that home to some unsuspecting person, who assumes the structural is ok, when it's not. Pretty irresponsible if you ask me.

Perhaps you get a bit of flack on this site because of these reasons. And the 20yr guys, well we've seen this all before buddy! Usually ends badly.
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It is my problem. Anything to do with another human being on this planet is my business.

Well im glad your more worried about what everyone else is getting upto. You must have an interesting life.

But to be honest how I or anyone else runs their buiness has nothing to do with you or anyone else. This is the problem with this site. You dont run the building trades from your command center contractor talk. There's far more people on this site who are willing to help than there are who moan about why they are in the wrong. Why are you even a member on the forum if you dont want to help people out. Must be nice to know it all.
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Great... another post from the handyman superstar that gets structural advice off the internet.

It's all of our problems people like you giving all of us a bad name.

What happens if next month that structure fails? Who takes the blame and who pays to have it fixed?

Yep thats me Fella. The guy who is willing to help anyone out on this forum and not bitch and moan when people ask a question. The superstar handyman they call bcconstruction, Thats me.
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If you don't know, or are not qualified to do something, why not hire the guy who does know, work with him, and maybe learn something.

If you do it yourself you are taking a huge risk as far as liability goes. I don't do plumbing, electrical, hvac etc. just for this reason.

Maybe guys do hack work, then sell that home to some unsuspecting person, who assumes the structural is ok, when it's not. Pretty irresponsible if you ask me.

Perhaps you get a bit of flack on this site because of these reasons. And the 20yr guys, well we've seen this all before buddy! Usually ends badly.
Everyone takes risks when they do any trade. qualified or not, It's part of the business. So what if a hack does a bad job and sells the house? If everyone done perfect work then half of you on this forum wouldn't have any work. Respect us hack handymen because we gain you more work than you realize.
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Everyone takes risks when they do any trade. qualified or not, It's part of the business. So what if a hack does a bad job and sells the house? If everyone done perfect work then half of you on this forum wouldn't have any work. Respect us hack handymen because we gain you more work than you realize.
Right on! More work for real tradesmen. You should find some local qualified trades and give them the addresses of the jobs you finish, so they can go to fix your work.

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An open question - why don't these untrained people put forth the time, energy and effort to get properly trained?

Is it they are too lazy? Or maybe they find it too hard?

I'd like to hear opinions on this.
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Respect us hack handymen because we gain you more work than you realize.

In a nutshell!!!!

Couldn't said it better myself!!!
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OK, this thread is way off topic now and headed down the wrong path so I'm going to close it.

I will say that we are going to try and set some ground rules here soon. If your "Wildly Unqualified" to complete a task this really isn't the place to get how to advice. Yes, everyone needs help from time to time but things are getting a little bit overboard lately.
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