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Old 05-26-2017, 09:58 PM   #41
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As long as they are not in the way, I couldn't care less. I got used to people watching when I was doing low voltage work and installing flat screens when they first became affordable. People would sit on the couch and watch us hang their TV.
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Old 05-27-2017, 12:15 AM   #42
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Last couple kitchen cabinet installs I did I had watchers. They were there when removing the old, installing new cabinets and counters, finishing, days on end.. It was great when they needed to do something else for a couple hours. At one point I had buddy and his kid standing there watching me, arms crossed, doing F-all. They did the same thing to the electrician.

Nothing unpleasant, they were just curious I think, and didn't question anything I did, other than ask questions out of curiosity. But still made for some long days.

The weirdest one was when I did warranty work for a large door manufacturer. Went to change out the glass in some French doors or something. Buddy let me in, then moved a fold up chair and sat on the other end of the room. I think he was worried I was going to steal his pots or pans from their crappy basement kitchen or something.
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I had a GC hire me to install a vanity in a 40sf bathroom. They never left my side. It was like having a judgemental tumor. My jokes became increasingly crass until the crescendo at the end with a little gas leak and a "meh, good enough for the girls I go out with" . I collected the check and stopped returning their calls. I've matured some since, but it's still good for a laugh.

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Tune in next week for another episode of "The Watchers."


Kirk accidently-on-purpose blows off a wet-fart and the 300 pound HO lady-gawker sits on a nail-gun and it goes off.

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Old 05-29-2017, 10:47 AM   #45
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Told the story before had a customer die right there in the chair watching me work. Still gives me the creeps.


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Old 05-29-2017, 10:57 AM   #46
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[QUOTE=NYgutterguy;5990489][QUOTE=NYgutterguy;5989233]We all remember my all day watchers from couple years ago


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I can't imagine turning to these guys and saying " according to clause 3 paragraph 8 of my contract you're not allowed to watch me work" even though you were nice enough to hire me. Obviously depends on the business.

Watching is one thing, micro managing is another. That also goes along with "why don't you do this", "why don't you do that", or, "I think this would be better"....also know as my way, which is not based on any skill or knowledge.

It's in the contract due to extreme cases of HO's and a few others who suddenly (and probably by habit) want to change the scope of work and/or materials used (we do electrical and low voltage). Which really means more expense for labor and materials on my end, and, of course they don't want to pay for that. Nor do they think it applies to a change order.

It is there to protect me and my company if push comes to shove. Don't get me wrong, I am like most everyone else here: patient, understanding, willing to take a moment to explain things (usually for the 10th or 12th time)
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wtf? I spent about a 6 hour day drywalling a water damaged ceiling then insalled a couple of lighting fixtures and a ceiling fan for a HO. The HO watched me the entire time. Not only did he stay in the same room with me but he was physically watching every thing I did. I have nothing to hide and I'm confident in my work but it was sure effin'annoying. I tried to downplay things by engaging in conversations now and then but it really sucked. I finished mudding and while waiting for it to dry I installed some new lighting in their kitchen. The guy followed me in there and again watched me like a hawk. He also had the TV blarring super loud and he had non-stop Judge-Judy crap blasting away... although he wasn't watching it because he was constantly watching me.

In 40 some years I've never experienced this before and have no idea if there is a solution or a professional way to handle this. W. T. F.

He wants me to come back to do some more work. Ain't happening.

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You just have to remember to let that butt-crack hang out proud and make sure it's facing him the whole time... not a lot of guys who want to hang around looking at THAT view long (add sound effects as needed)...

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I include a clause about interference in my contracts, I will mention it if it become excessive.

If someone is underfoot or it's a safety hazard then they have to go.

Handyman work just begs to be watched.
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Old 05-29-2017, 04:01 PM   #49
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Few weeks back I had a retired female DEA AGENT watching me all freaking day. When I walked to the truck she climbed my ladder to "make sure the gutters are sealed". When I turned the corner and saw her I yelled out, "are you f-ng fisting me? get down now." at the top of my lungs. I then gave her a speech about my insurance and liability. She argued until I had her waddle over and read the weight rating of 225 lbs on the 24' ladder. She was easily 400! Nothing annoys me more than old women who think every man/contractor is out to screw them.

I could understand if I was a slob who wrote contracts on napkins. I run a very professional operation and have 95% perfect reviews as well as references out the wazoo. Surprisingly, she paid with a tip and gave a glowing review on yelp.


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Old 05-29-2017, 04:16 PM   #50
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Few weeks back I had a retired female DEA AGENT watching me all freaking day. When I walked to the truck she climbed my ladder to "make sure the gutters are sealed". When I turned the corner and saw her I yelled out, "are you f-ng f-ng me? get down now." at the top of my lungs. I then gave her a speech about my insurance and liability. She argued until I had her waddle over and read the weight rating of 225 lbs on the 24' ladder. She was easily 400! Nothing annoys me more than old women who think every man/contractor is out to screw them.



I could understand if I was a slob who wrote contracts on napkins. I run a very professional operation and have 95% perfect reviews as well as references out the wazoo. Surprisingly, she paid with a tip and gave a glowing review on yelp.





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Old 05-29-2017, 06:05 PM   #51
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Most amazing part of story is if you had to ask whether she was fisting you or not .... FIFY. Welcome back


Lol. I lurk a lot. Can't post a lot when I'm trying to make as much money as possible my first year in Chicago.

The GF is out of town and me and the dog are wasting time. (drinking)

I'll make a thread about my experience in the new city soon.


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Lol. I lurk a lot. Can't post a lot when I'm trying to make as much money as possible my first year in Chicago.

The GF is out of town and me and the dog are wasting time. (drinking)

I'll make a thread about my experience in the new city soon.


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Maybe that's my problem. Spend too much time posting . Grab a sixer and read a tipi thread or two.


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I'm living in a condo in the city, you can't get more CITY CENTER than my digs. Bad news is, I have to be mashing the gas by 6am otherwise traffic is unexplainable bad. All of my work is in the burbs and my trailer and gutter machine are on the south side. I didn't know any better and I'm an idiot so I signed a one-year lease. Ugh

I wake at 5 to take care of the dog (and the gf if she lets me! snicker) then it's 60 blocks south to hook up the trailer followed by 60 blocks back INTO the city so I can then take a freeway to the job site. That's an hour already wasted. I'll have more time next year once I sort out my service area and relocate my parking situation. In the meantime it's all work and no play.
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I'm living in a condo in the city, you can't get more CITY CENTER than my digs. Bad news is, I have to be mashing the gas by 6am otherwise traffic is unexplainable bad. All of my work is in the burbs and my trailer and gutter machine are on the south side. I didn't know any better and I'm an idiot so I signed a one-year lease. Ugh

I wake at 5 to take care of the dog (and the gf if she lets me! snicker) then it's 60 blocks south to hook up the trailer followed by 60 blocks back INTO the city so I can then take a freeway to the job site. That's an hour already wasted. I'll have more time next year once I sort out my service area and relocate my parking situation. In the meantime it's all work and no play.


Good luck. Put your head down and grind it out till you can make changes in your set up.


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I remember your thread where you asked about moving into the Chi and we told you what it would be like working in the city.

I have to say I admire your perseverance to make it happen. I can't imagine the hell you must endure daily just to get to work.

Hopefully you can save up to move to the burbs after your lease is up.

Until then, hang in there bud!
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In 40 some years I've never experienced this before and have no idea if there is a solution or a professional way to handle this. W. T. F.

He wants me to come back to do some more work. Ain't happening.

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I haven't had to do it yet, dropped some hints and they got it. But I would be honest and tell them it makes me self conscience and takes away my focus on the job so I can't work this way. The choice is theirs.
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I always tell them that they 'paid for the show' so they are allowed to watch.

Most times they get bored and walk away. Them watching dosen't bother me in the least.
I would be bored off my ass. I can watch a sub work for a couple minutes while chatting but then I have to go. The worst is when you get back too early when you thought they'd be done so you can pay them and lock up but they have 2 hours of work left. Most likely because they were making puppies half the day.
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I would be bored off my ass. I can watch a sub work for a couple minutes while chatting but then I have to go. The worst is when you get back too early when you thought they'd be done so you can pay them and lock up but they have 2 hours of work left. Most likely because they were making puppies half the day.
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I've heard of screwing the pooch before but it's a different meaning.

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