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Old 05-25-2017, 09:01 AM   #1
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wtf? I spent about a 6 hour day drywalling a water damaged ceiling then insalled a couple of lighting fixtures and a ceiling fan for a HO. The HO watched me the entire time. Not only did he stay in the same room with me but he was physically watching every thing I did. I have nothing to hide and I'm confident in my work but it was sure effin'annoying. I tried to downplay things by engaging in conversations now and then but it really sucked. I finished mudding and while waiting for it to dry I installed some new lighting in their kitchen. The guy followed me in there and again watched me like a hawk. He also had the TV blarring super loud and he had non-stop Judge-Judy crap blasting away... although he wasn't watching it because he was constantly watching me.

In 40 some years I've never experienced this before and have no idea if there is a solution or a professional way to handle this. W. T. F.

He wants me to come back to do some more work. Ain't happening.

Any advice ?

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Old 05-25-2017, 09:07 AM   #2
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I sided a house once where the customers business was on the same property. He literally sat there and watched us the whole time. He would keep tabs on when we showed up and when we left. He was upset we started after his fab shop guys started, but didn't take into account we were there hours after they left.

Every day for a week and a half. Except for the last day where we were to be paid. Then suddenly he had to be somewhere else. We finished and sat there and waited until he got home that night.

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Maybe he's looking for a Bromance
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I had a guy do this from a lawn chair a few years ago. When I said I was going to the store to get something to drink, he said "thars a wadder hose raght thar". I said "$%&+ you" but it came out as "no thank you".
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I said "$%&+ you" but it came out as "no thank you".
Funny, that's usually how I say "no thank you" too.
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Once had a HO review their security camera footage to make sure I wasn't charging them for more hours than we were there. They then tried to withhold payment for any minute that we weren't actively swinging a hammer. Not even kidding...minutes deducted for things like calculating dimensions off the plan or walking back to the truck for more material.
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Doing work in a kitchen, we were at drywall stage. While hanging the ceiling the HO came and sat on the bench I was working off of. I was standing on it at the time, with a 12 footer on my head...

For some reason I got the dropsies, and it started raining screws. He didn't get the hint, so I dropped the screwgun onto the bench next to him.

Not only did he not move off the bench, he didn't even pass the screwgun back to me.

I had to go for a slow trip out to the truck before coming back and telling him to take a hike unless he wanted me to pack it in.

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..those are so funny ( and painful) stories guys.

..but not when you are dealing with these a-holes !!! What the hell is wrong with people these days? I've never had so many ODD situations on jobsites in the past few years.

And how about the youtube and google HO experts who tell you how to do things? I just wanna slap em' silly.

I think the next time some chiselhead wants to babysit me I'm gonna pack up my stuff and tell him I have an emergency call and we'll have to reschedule him. And never do so. At what one point the guy was yawning and said " Man I'm tired." I quickly said "go take a nap." He replies back" No, thats OK, I'm good."
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Old 05-25-2017, 05:49 PM   #9
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...He wants me to come back to do some more work. Ain't happening. Any advice ?...
Yup, go down to the local stop & rob and get a couple of onion laden chili dogs and don't forget a bunch of that fake melted cheese...
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People see it as acceptable but if I hired a lawyer to work for me and stood over them in their board rooms, conference rooms, etc. that would come off as highly inappropriate and they would tell us to vacate.

Maybe I've gotten big for my britches but I'm at a point where I'd politely ask to be left to work and think and I'm uneasy being watched and it has nothing to do with me wanting to hack your house up or steal your lawn flamingo...I just like to be at peace with the radio. If a HO won't respect that simple request, I'd tell them I'll come back another day. I won't flat out refuse to finish the job but my sense of urgency will lessen.
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We all remember my all day watchers from couple years ago


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My grip on my hammer will usually get really slippery when I am being watched for that long.

"Whoa man! did that almost hit you?"
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Happens to me all of the time, I am used to it now. I was doing a bathroom one time and a 80 year old guy stood at the doorway for 2 full days watching me do tile.

Did a kitchen for a guy who sat at the table telling me WWII stories for days on end, he just kept talking and talking. He actually flew a B25 under the Golden Gate Bridge. He is 92 now and I have been working for him for 28 years
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The good old silent observer, or chatty observer... that is why I love the commercial world... still occasionally do residential, but I'd be hard pressed to go back.


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I always tell them that they 'paid for the show' so they are allowed to watch.

Most times they get bored and walk away. Them watching dosen't bother me in the least.
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I always tell them that they 'paid for the show' so they are allowed to watch.

Most times they get bored and walk away. Them watching dosen't bother me in the least.
Same here. Couldn't care less if they watch.

Most are genuinely curious how it all works.

In the rare occurrence that they start giving us "ideas" on how to do our job, I simply don't answer their questions or comments. Dead silence from me. They usually get bored and walk away eventually. If they don't I'll even make it incredibly obvious like asking some mundane question to my helper about how his weekend was or something, and completely ignore the customer.

If they were to complain, I can easily pull out my contract and point to this clause:


The Owner will not assume any liability or responsibility, nor have control over or charge of construction means, methods, techniques, sequences, procedures, or for safety precautions and programs in connection with the project, since these are solely the Contractor’s responsibility.

I actually like them to see all the problems we run into on every job, and how we still figure out a way to make it happen.
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Once had a HO review their security camera footage to make sure I wasn't charging them for more hours than we were there. They then tried to withhold payment for any minute that we weren't actively swinging a hammer. Not even kidding...minutes deducted for things like calculating dimensions off the plan or walking back to the truck for more material.
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Gas em out ! Damm...now that I am good at. I wished I'd thought of it. Not only do they stink bad but I can let it rip like a wet trombone.
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That drives me nuts. Good thing it rarely happens.


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I had a H/O who was absolutely convinced that tape had to be used while cutting in paint lines on smooth walls to knockdown ceilings. She came into the room and wigged out on my helper (and good friend) so bad that I ran back into the house from my truck thinking my guy had broken something or got hurt. The poor guy was standing on his perry scaffold with eyes wide open and looking like he was about to be shot. The lady kept going off on him and it took me about 2-3 minutes to calm her down. I looked over his work, and the paint lines were his usual high standards. He's one of the best cut in painters I have ever worked with. He is also very polite and neat. I gently reminded the lady that this was the same guy did her entire 11 room office building cutting in by hand, and that she loved the work we did on the place. It didn't matter to her, and she continued being rude to my guy and watching him like a hawk. After another hour of her nonsense, he was so shook up and nervous he couldn't work any longer. He didn't want to let me down, but I could see the poor guy visibly shaking. I told him.....screw her! We packed up and pulled off the job. Her husband called me later and apologized, and asked if my helper and I could meet with him so he could apologize to him directly.

We all met up at a local restaurant the next day and had nice meal on his dime. He looked over at my friend and told him not to worry about his wife, and then said.........the old bird watches too much YouTube. He ended up packing his wife off to their beach house down in the Outer Banks, and we finished the paint job for him.

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