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Old 03-16-2008, 12:32 AM   #141
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That Micah Morren dude looks like the missing link. How about that 1/4" gap in the miter of the crown in that pic with the goofy dude standing on the stairs. ("about us" section)
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Check it out, Holmes's ex-guy, Shawn has a website:

http://www.shawnmorren.com/
In the "About Us" Section, there is a picture of them standing in front of a large window arrangement.
I don't know about you guys, but we do not "tape" or membrane OVER the bottom Nailing-Fin of new construction windows, because if there is a leak, the water is forced back into the house (over-taped), rather than down and to the outside (no "over"-tape/membrane)....
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I just saw the Pasadena, CA show where he worked for that Dora the fish voice chick. Just some observations.

1. He complained loudly and unprofessionally about having to look through 10 pages of the prints to figure out where a particular wall height was. uh....maybe he doesn't use plans much...but that's pretty common. Architects and engineers don't draw things to make the framer's happy. Deal with it.

2. He climbed up onto a roof using an extension ladder that was leaning up against the wall, about 8 inches below the top edge of the roof...AND NOT ATTACHED TO ANYTHING. It actually pulled away from the wall a bit when the helper climbed up there.

I was taught that the OSHA/L&I guys say it has to extend 36" beyond the surface you are going to be stepping on to and secured to it. Not too smart to film and show such a violation.

3. When building a 17' tall wall, his helper was showing how the nails from the nail gun wouldn't shoot into the timberstrand studs and plate. But he was pulling the gun back every time he shot. Mike, made fun of Cali's incredible seismic codes but that nails were substandard because they could just pull out...something he had learned as a little boy. He actually said that "they" (CA code writers i guess) tested nails for shear but they never tested screws so that's why you can't use screws. Just watch them swing a hammer or try to pull the nails...no joy. They ended up leaving them and cutting them off with a cordless DeWalt sawzall.

I tivo'd it for future more detailed examination. It's a hoot.

New construction is WAY DIFFERENT than "reno" as the CDNs call it.

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...New construction is WAY DIFFERENT than "reno" as the CDNs call it.
I've got to check that episode out.

I had a lead worker up till last year, that had a framing background. Young, round-ish, married kid (23). Started banging nails at 13. We used to have some nice laughs when going in to do work on "some" homes, that previous "renovators" had done work on. (No knowledge of framing, exterior construction, roofing, new-const window installation, siding, etc.)

(Sorry to have lost that worker, a Really good kid. Very talented and humble. He tried to go out on his own with another worker last June. I got a call from a temp. placement agency doing a check on his paperwork.)
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I just saw the Pasadena, CA show where he worked for that Dora the fish voice chick. Just some observations.

1. He complained loudly and unprofessionally about having to look through 10 pages of the prints to figure out where a particular wall height was. uh....maybe he doesn't use plans much...but that's pretty common. Architects and engineers don't draw things to make the framer's happy. Deal with it.

2. He climbed up onto a roof using an extension ladder that was leaning up against the wall, about 8 inches below the top edge of the roof...AND NOT ATTACHED TO ANYTHING. It actually pulled away from the wall a bit when the helper climbed up there.

I was taught that the OSHA/L&I guys say it has to extend 36" beyond the surface you are going to be stepping on to and secured to it. Not to smart to film and show such a violation.

3. When building a 17' tall wall, his helper was showing how the nails from the nail gun wouldn't shoot into the timberstrand studs and plate. But he was pulling the gun back every time he shot. Mike, made fun of Cali's incredible seismic codes but that nails were substandard because they could just pull out...something he had learned as a little boy. He actually said that "they" (CA code writers i guess) tested nails for shear but they never tested screws so that's why you can't use screws. Just watch them swing a hammer or try to pull the nails...no joy. They ended up leaving them and cutting them off with a cordless DeWalt sawzall.

I tivo'd it for future more detailed examination. It's a hoot.

New construction is WAY DIFFERENT than "reno" as the CDNs call it.
As we've all said before: The show is oriented specifically towards the homeowner, and as such the directors, producers, and "actors" take a lot of "poetic" licence with what they are doing. They are not preaching to the choir (us), so they don't worry as much if something is exactly correct. It has to look good.
I'm sure the California inspectors made certain the work was done properly, even if they did take some "liberties".
As much as we love to bash the guy, he is doing us a huge service by highlighting the "bad guys" out there, and hopefully maing it a little easier for us to compete with the cheapies.
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I am sure Mike is a good guy..... Unfortunately I do not think that he has much more than common sense, and would like to see what happens when something like a bastard roof system is sent his way if he needs to hold up a rafter to figure it out. I also wondered if he ever thought about the shear strenght of a screw opposed to the appropriate nail? Just my 2 cents.
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Actually,I like the fact he points out "he's gonna bring the right people"
I don't know why ,but I like that line.Shows he's not trying to say he knows it all and it also shows GC is not supposed to do it all.Just needs the right people.
I also like the way he started to ask people how much money they payed to contractor.Would be nice if he they also say how much money he's spending on the project.
God it has to be nice working without the budged,with HO out of the way and virtually no blueprints.
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I have said before I like Mike.I think he honestly wants to make things right for the HO.But a few things rub me wrong...

1.Like others have pointed out we never hear how much what HE has done would have cost."Rip this out,rip that out,rebuild it all".It would give other HO's an idea of what to expect to pay for a "real" contractor to do the job and not some cheap hack...

2.I find it hard to feel sorry for A LOT of the HO's.Some of them look like they have plenty of money to pay to have it done right but are to cheap to pay for it."No we did not get permits".And it sounds like they allways go with the cheapest estimate.

3.And the screws drive me crazy!On the show from California he was complaing about the holding power of nails.The he showed us he could not pull one out of an lvl.....
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Its all a complete farce. All this show will do is make HO's want a beyond premium "Holmes" job. ....Until they see the estimate.
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Its all a complete farce. All this show will do is make HO's want a beyond premium "Holmes" job. ....Until they see the estimate.
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Freekin great job!!!
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Let's all....just Get along.....


And.......Make it Right!...
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His job sites seem real, but without all of the information they convniently edit out of the footage you have to wonder how much of it they exaggerate and tune to make it look good. Hell, I could walk into a screwed up reno, and make it look a lot worse in a day, make up all kinds of things that I 'find' as I go along, make up all kinds of comments about the bad contractor that was in before me. In the end, no names mentioned, no evidence, no second side of the story.

At times he comes across as a serious loose cannon, like you have to sit back and wonder about him. Did you see the one where he had a disconnected, abandoned electrical line running through a basement ceiling in the floor joists? So, His way of fixing it was to short and twist the hot and neutral wires TOGETHER with a wire nut just 'in case' someone hooked this line back up to the panel, so it would blow the breaker immediately.
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I just saw the Pasadena, CA show where he worked for that Dora the fish voice chick. Just some observations.

1. He complained loudly and unprofessionally about having to look through 10 pages of the prints to figure out where a particular wall height was. uh....maybe he doesn't use plans much...but that's pretty common. Architects and engineers don't draw things to make the framer's happy. Deal with it.

2. He climbed up onto a roof using an extension ladder that was leaning up against the wall, about 8 inches below the top edge of the roof...AND NOT ATTACHED TO ANYTHING. It actually pulled away from the wall a bit when the helper climbed up there.

I was taught that the OSHA/L&I guys say it has to extend 36" beyond the surface you are going to be stepping on to and secured to it. Not too smart to film and show such a violation.

3. When building a 17' tall wall, his helper was showing how the nails from the nail gun wouldn't shoot into the timberstrand studs and plate. But he was pulling the gun back every time he shot. Mike, made fun of Cali's incredible seismic codes but that nails were substandard because they could just pull out...something he had learned as a little boy. He actually said that "they" (CA code writers i guess) tested nails for shear but they never tested screws so that's why you can't use screws. Just watch them swing a hammer or try to pull the nails...no joy. They ended up leaving them and cutting them off with a cordless DeWalt sawzall.

I tivo'd it for future more detailed examination. It's a hoot.

New construction is WAY DIFFERENT than "reno" as the CDNs call it.
While we're on the "nails", he held one up and proclaimed that "common" nails just aren't as strong as screws. Unfortunately, Mike doesn't appear to know a whole lot about nails. For a framer, the use of the term "common" is significant, especially when discussing structural applications.

It sure looked to me like Mike was holding a 16d sinker which is a lot closer to a box shank than a common shank. It's visibly much thinner than a common (.162" for a common versus .135" for a sinker), and the head is thicker and looks proportionally much smaller compared to the shank. You know a common nail when you see one, right away.

I know it's nit-picky, but if you're a framer a box nail and a common nail and a sinker are three very, very different creatures.

One more thing. Those of us here in Cali know that the ICBO (now the ICC) has done extensive testing of screws in appropriate applications (drywall, framing clips, hardware, etc). If they don't allow screws in a particular application it's not because no one tested it, it's because it was tested and found to be inadequate or inappropriate for that use.
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Good story here...

I saw the Newfoundland episode where the lady had a 17 foot deck collapse and the three of them hit the ground hard. The contractor was a hack and I really felt bad for her, she broke her hip, etc. had to go to court.

So Big Mikey shows up, does the heartstrings rant and is going to make it right.

He rebuilds basically the same 17 foot high little deck with two 6x6 posts down all that height into two Bigfoot concrete footings. Fine and dandy.

He then decides to add a second deck at five feet off the same two posts, NOTCHING 3 inches out of the posts for the lintel. That leaves 3 inches left of post wood left on each post at 5 feet, with a bigger deck up at 17 feet. I gotta problem with this.

I joined the Mike Holmes Fan Forum and brought this up, in a very respectful manner (I admitted I liked the show). My post was pulled within 5 minutes. When I asked a mod what that was about, BANNED!

Mikey has some real good friends on a short leash running his site. Pretty ironic that I got banned from there when his motto has always been "Dont ask how ask why"

What a hypocrite. ...I'll still watch , though. The music is killer.

Hope the old lady doesnt use the deck after 5 or 6 winters and summers. An expanding and contracting lintel (grain horizontal) is going to put some stress on those two pieces of 3"x 6" thick post (vertical grain).

He's the man. No questions allowed.

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When your only purpose is to sell advertising and make money, use a DEWALT product and tell everyone its better than sliced bread. The whole program is an infommercial.
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....I joined the Mike Holmes Fan Forum and brought this up, in a very respectful manner (I admitted I liked the show). My post was pulled within 5 minutes. When I asked a mod what that was about, BANNED!.
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are there any contractors that don't get consumer complaints? i used to go out to jobs where the homeowner loved me to death, praised my work day in and day out, then found they didn't like me so much when the bill came...sound familiar?

it's been a long time since i was in the trades, and even then i was quite young, but it seems to me that holmes must be pretty good considering HD had the confidence in him to put him on the discovery channel.
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Good story here...

I saw the Newfoundland episode where the lady had a 17 foot deck collapse and the three of them hit the ground hard. The contractor was a hack and I really felt bad for her, she broke her hip, etc. had to go to court.

So Big Mikey shows up, does the heartstrings rant and is going to make it right.

He rebuilds basically the same 17 foot high little deck with two 6x6 posts down all that height into two Bigfoot concrete footings. Fine and dandy.

He then decides to add a second deck at five feet off the same two posts, NOTCHING 3 inches out of the posts for the lintel. That leaves 3 inches left of post wood left on each post at 5 feet, with a bigger deck up at 17 feet. I gotta problem with this.

I joined the Mike Holmes Fan Forum and brought this up, in a very respectful manner (I admitted I liked the show). My post was pulled within 5 minutes. When I asked a mod what that was about, BANNED!

Mikey has some real good friends on a short leash running his site. Pretty ironic that I got banned from there when his motto has always been "Dont ask how ask why"

What a hypocrite. ...I'll still watch , though. The music is killer.

Hope the old lady doesnt use the deck after 5 or 6 winters and summers. An expanding and contracting lintel (grain horizontal) is going to put some stress on those two pieces of 3"x 6" thick post (vertical grain).

He's the man. No questions allowed.
I've said it before: this guy is no more perfect than the rest of us. I've seen several of his shows in which he's done decks incorrectly;he did a big 25 house group fence job that had numerous mistakes in it, he built a fancy stone retaining wall on a corner lot right up to the edge of the sidewalk even thought the property line was 3' back (they had to tear it out: of course this was never mentioned on the show); and lots of other gaffs.
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This old lady already almost died once from a collapsed deck. What does he do? Builds the same thing a lot stronger and heavier and then notches the posts at the bottom. After going on and on about contractors jeopardizing lives through laziness, he goes and does the same friggin thing!!

All he had to do was nail or screw the lintel to the inside of the posts and sister the posts with two five foot post under the lintel down to the pad.Twice as strong for both decks, no post material removed. Probably faster to build, too.

I hope they dont get a shaker out there..


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