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06-30-2009, 10:38 AM
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Help with class project?
I have a picture of a beam and a bar joist. the connection is an angle that is fillet welded. Assume these are the typical bar joist and beam layout in an industrial . I have to figure the orientation of the forces (tension, compression, shear, moment) being transmitted by the connection. I have a picture I can send in an email. Some care to give me a hand? I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE ANSWER
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06-30-2009, 10:50 AM
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06-30-2009, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JCLadson
I have a picture of a beam and a bar joist. the connection is an angle that is fillet welded. Assume these are the typical bar joist and beam layout in an industrial . I have to figure the orientation of the forces (tension, compression, shear, moment) being transmitted by the connection. I have a picture I can send in an email. Some care to give me a hand? I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE ANSWER
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Umm.. okay.. no hand, and no answer from me .. but I'll give ya a nod!!! 
Go ahead... make my day... let's just do & die together!!!
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06-30-2009, 11:01 AM
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I actually have that site as one of my favorites. Thanks.
To my understanding, since the connection is an angle that is welded to both the bar joist and beam, it makes it a moment connection. Therefore there is no shear. Correct? But I am confuseded on how to determine the compression and tenion by transmitted by the angle.
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06-30-2009, 11:05 AM
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Umm.. okay.. no hand, and no answer from me .. but I'll give ya a nod!!!
Go ahead... make my day... let's just do & die together!!! |
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06-30-2009, 11:09 AM
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Beautiful hand
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06-30-2009, 11:15 AM
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haha happy now? you got your hand
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06-30-2009, 11:19 AM
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haha happy now? you got your hand
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Want more?
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06-30-2009, 11:42 AM
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JC we are going back w-a-a-a-a-y-y-y-y too many years for me. I haven't studied that stuff since 1964. Wish I could help you.
You can probably see that some of these other jokers have no idea what we are talking about.
If one of you guys have some engineering background please speak up. 
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06-30-2009, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud Cline
JC we are going back w-a-a-a-a-y-y-y-y too many years for me. I haven't studied that stuff since 1964. Wish I could help you.
You can probably see that some of these other jokers have no idea what we are talking about.
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Thanks Bud
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07-01-2009, 05:43 AM
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Need to see the picture and what is the material made of?
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07-02-2009, 04:47 AM
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CDAT Could I send a picture to your email address? I tried posting here but it will not allow me.
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07-02-2009, 04:59 AM
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you can email it to me and i'll post it. dennis400(at)gmail(dot)com
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07-02-2009, 05:53 AM
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egotistical prick
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CDAT Could I send a picture to your email address? I tried posting here but it will not allow me.
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Why yes, yes you can.
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07-02-2009, 06:44 AM
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Why yes, yes you can.
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whats your email?
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07-02-2009, 06:48 AM
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07-02-2009, 09:52 AM
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egotistical prick
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07-02-2009, 10:25 AM
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egotistical prick
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Okay now what grade is it?
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07-02-2009, 10:38 AM
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it is #9 and they are all steel members. The connections are all welded, no bolts.
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07-02-2009, 12:31 PM
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egotistical prick
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http://www.modernsteel.com/steelinterchange.php
Or try Statics for engineers on google books.
Or want the actual answer without doing the work?
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