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Old 03-24-2006, 11:19 PM   #1
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Have You Seen Him


I had this posted in excavating but after this week I think he's gotten loose and maybe you might have seen one of them.

An Expert?
In the hiring process for operators, drivers, laborers and in many other conversations involving our work the word expert has been used to convey a persons ability and status. I always wondered what they ment. After the last few experts something my girls are constantly telling me came to mind “ dad I don’t think that means what you think it means” a saying they got from a movie. So I looked it up to better understand how to look at peoples qualifications. I’m sort of sorry I did. The Websters New Collegiate Dictionary version.

Expert: experienced : having, involving, or displaying special skill or knowledge derived from training or experience. see AUTHORITY

Authority: an individual cited or appealed to as an expert : power to influence or command thought, opinion or behavoir: convincing force.

Skilled: having aquired mastery of or skill in something.
see PROFICIENT

Proficient: well advanced in an art, occupation, or branch of knowledge
see ADEPT

Adept: a highly skilled or well-trained individual: thoroughly proficient : EXPERT

Whoa! I never would have guessed by talking to them.

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Old 03-24-2006, 11:50 PM   #2
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What is an Expert
What is an Expert? An expert is an individual who possesses an extensive knowledge base in a given domain, and is able to access this knowledge base in a rapid and organized fashion.

Or This :
What is an Expert ? An expert is an authority in any discipline that requires specialised knowledge and/or experience.

Or This ?
(n) a person with special knowledge or ability who performs skillfully
(s) having or showing knowledge and skill and aptitude; "adept in handicrafts"; "an adept juggler"; "an expert job"; "a good mechanic"; "a practiced marksman"; "a proficient engineer"; "a lesser-known but no less skillful composer"; "the effect was achieved b

This is a term that can be used "Loosely" to say the least.
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Great now you have seriously damaged the egos of the self professed experts on this board
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If any of us were truely experts, we would definately not be on this board or talking about construction, we'd be on a beach somewhere sippin fruitey drinks being fed by tan island gals thinking about our large stash in the bank account

Whenever I'm asked if I know what I'm doing, the standard reply is "if I did I would not be here"
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Quote:
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If any of us were truely experts, we would definately not be on this board or talking about construction, we'd be on a beach somewhere sippin fruitey drinks being fed by tan island gals thinking about our large stash in the bank account

Whenever I'm asked if I know what I'm doing, the standard reply is "if I did I would not be here"

If that is what happens I am going to school to become one Sounds like my kind of life.

My Dad always comments on how everyone on the news media is an expert. usually they are a heap of nothing.
Reminds me of how they use the word hero today.
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Someone who knows more and more about less and less untill they know everything about nothing
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Someone who knows more and more about less and less untill they know everything about nothing
Or maybe they're just being 'asbestos' they can be!!
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Whenever I'm asked if I know what I'm doing, the standard reply is "if I did I would not be here"
I always just tell 'em, - - yeah, 'cuz I've already made every mistake, - - TWICE!!
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Try This out. It May and MAY NOT explain every question about the word "EXPERT".

Only you lawyers out there should try this.

As a Matter of Fact

The difference between lay witness and expert witness is shown in this exchange in a trial involving former Louisiana governor Edwin Edwards. Laura East, a Metairie, Louisiana, practitioner, testified as an investigative accountant for the prosecution to prove Edwards spent $742,310 more than he reported receiving from 1994 to 1996. Dan Small, Edwards’ attorney, defended him for rigging Louisiana’s riverboat licensing process. The excerpt is from a Baton Rouge Advocate story (“Witness, Attorney Have Testy Session” by Christopher Baughman and Adrian Angelette, The Advocate Online, March 2, 2000):
Edwards’ attorney, Dan Small, set off the fireworks when he said certified public accountant Laura East had lied about testifying as an expert in a federal trial in 1993. When East took the stand Tuesday, she said the 1993 trial was the only time she had testified as an expert witness in federal court. Under questioning by prosecutor Mike Magner, she went on to say it was her expert opinion that Edwards spent $742,310 more in cash than he reported receiving from 1994 to 1996. Prosecutors are trying to prove Edwards spent the cash to hide money he got by extorting riverboat casinos. Edwards, his son Stephen and five other men are on trial for allegedly rigging the riverboat casino licensing process.

On Wednesday, Small started out by asking East about her status as an expert in the 1993 trial. East again said she had testified as an expert. But when Small showed East a transcript from the 1993 trial, she changed her testimony. Small said East had testified in that case for the defendant as a “fact” witness. She had kept some of the man’s books and testified about that, Small said. The defense hadn’t even asked the judge to designate her as an expert witness, Small noted.

“I did not realize I had not testified as an expert,” East told Small.

“So your sworn testimony was totally false, wasn’t it?” Small asked.

“By accident,” East responded.

A short time later, [presiding judge Frank J.] Polozola sent the jury and East from the courtroom. Small asked that Polozola disqualify East and throw out her testimony. He also asked that the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Baton Rouge file a perjury charge against East.

“I have never in 21 years done this,” Small told Polozola. “I’m very upset about this.”

Small noted that Peter Strasser, who is part of the prosecution team in the Edwards trial, prosecuted the 1993 case that East was a witness in. Strasser told Polozola he did not remember East from the 1993 trial. In any event, Strasser said, East had given expert testimony in the 1993 trial, even if she had not been qualified as an expert.

Then Magner attacked Small, asking Polozola to hold him in contempt “for misleading the jury and the public.”

“I think that counsel has made a grandstand play here,” Magner said. “He has made a very big fuss out of very little.”

Polozola ruled East’s expert testimony could stand, and it was up to the jury to determine its credibility.



Now Is it perfectly clear??



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I think you got the definnation right.
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