FISHER Homes Raid

willbone3

Tuesday in KY fisher homes who employes mostly mexcian woorkers were raided. 4 supers. 76 woorkers arrested. Is this kind of thing going on at all building sites? A couple weeks ago it was river transport. I wonder were next?

Mike Finley

Hooray! Like I've always said, all you need to do too stop the runs over the board is to eliminate the reasons to come here. Make the risks too high for employers and the illegals jobs dry up and so does their reasons for coming here.

We had one of the branches of IFCO out here - that company that they raided a couple of weeks ago nationally and arrested 1200 illegals - they nabbed about 40 of em here.

I'm so proud of our politicians here in Colorado, they have introduced over 400 bills in the state legislature in the last year regarding illegal immigration, only passed a handfull of legislation so far but I like anything that is at least being done. They just passed a bill for hiring 24 State Troopers to do nothing but deal with illegals, then they passed a law requiring notifiying the INS if they arrest an illegal for breaking any laws other than domestic violence or a traffic stop. They tried to pass another bill getting rid of Spanish on any official documents in the state, but it got defeated.

Grumpy

As it turns out I had hired a few illegals last year. No I didn't know they were illegal, but when the letters started coming in from the IRS saying that SS numbers provided didn't match the names... Well those guys I all let go at the start of last winter, and I have photo copies of their SS cards and picture ID's... I'm still worried however.

PipeGuy

You've done all you're supposed to do. I wouldn't worry a bit if it was me. My last employer got letters like that all the time and just sent copies of the documentation back to SS / IRS. No problems.

PipeGuy

That's right. And wages will push up when you reduce the supply of artificially discounted labor and then maybe the trades start to attract native born kids again.

Bone Saw

HELL YEAH Colorado may champion a new trend for other states to follow, wouldn't worry too much grumpy you followed the rules and beyond that shouldn't be your burden or any legitimate buisness's burden, pipe I think your idea in another thread about making mexico a state was the most brilliant thing I have heard. someone who did not read that will probably be along shortly to completely take this statement out of context. I have started penpalling with some troops in Iraq, particticularly with close hometowns, send them care packages (itemized charitable contributions) know that guys in need are getting what they need, and trying to forge the foundation for some future employees.

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Cole

We can only hope.

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Grumpy

I dunno... I think the unions already make too much money. The higher our wages go the harder it is for this country to compete in this global economy and the more we lose our foothold as THE super power. That's why everything that can be outsourced is outsourced. C'mon! I see no reason why a roofer (employee) needs to make $42.23 an hour (cook county IL prevailing wage).

Also the more money people make, the more money people need to make because of inflation. So it kind of defeats the purpose of making more if you are still spending the same percentage of your income to live.

A+Carpenter

YES- Maybe Texas? I heard they did 34 of them last week. Can I say FEESHER homes is BUSTED???

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fez-head

This is a letter that I am sending out with every hail damage bid. We are flooded with illegals since the big hail storms passed thru a couple months ago and they are driving down the prices that the insurance companies want to pay out.

It seems wrong that the insurance companies can have a "preferred contractor" who blatantly uses illegals to keep the price artificially low.

May 11

Dear Mr.Salke

Thank you for your interest in our storm repair services. Enclosed are two copies of the contract. If it meets with your approval, please sign both copies and return one in the enclosed, preaddressed envelope.

Just so you know, I am not a “preferred contractor” for the insurance companies. Many of the “preferred contractors” for the Insurance Companies are using low paid, undocumented illegal immigrants. The reasoning behind this is to stay inline with the insurance pricing and in-turn to receive more work from the insurance companies; regardless of the effects to our economy.

Many homeowners disapprove of the use of illegal immigrants; but after signing a contract it is to late to do anything about it. You will find that my prices are higher than what the Insurance Company has quoted to you. The reason for this is that I my men are very well paid in order to support their families and we focus on the Quality of work not the Quantity. My pricing is based on repair type installations using the 2006 National Renovation & Insurance Repair Estimator Software which is updated monthly.

I will be happy to deal with your insurance adjuster for you to discuss pricing and I look forward to working with you very soon.

Respectfully,


Jesse R. Kirchhoff
Kirchhoff Handyman Solutions
Phone 635-2708 Fax 634-8882
Email jessekirchhoff@earthlink.net
Web Site www.MidMoHandyman.com

Gordo

Great letter. You are absolutely correct in what you say. My feeling is you will be fighting an up-hill battle.

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Mike Finley

Great job Jesse, I think it's a great idea. My only suggestion would be to consider changing

to maybe something along the lines of my men are fairly compensated, in order to support their families...

fez-head

You are probably right Mike.....some people (doctors mostly ) think that unless your college educated you have no right to be "well paid".

maj

uh oh...

PipeGuy

I think we all agree on this point.

There's a unique circumstance - the law breakers would prefer the law didn't exist.

so in your perfect world black markets are allowed to displace legitimate commerce?

I agree. Let's stop subsidizing 'Big Farming' and 'Big Textile' and 'Big Construction' by looking the other way while they reap grotesque profits on the backs of illegal immigrants. Let's hit'em where it hurts and cut off the supply of illegal immigrants so they'll have to hire LEGAL workers (even Native Americans) and pay a decent days wage.

Ths may be the most sophmoric, over-used line of non-reasoning I've ever come across. It's so rife with ridiculous inferences and blatant disregard of history that it's become little more than a caricature of those who cite it.

I couldn't agree more.

Gordo

Pipe you are on a roll.

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bob the builder

Originally Posted by lxdollarsxl
i support those that are illegal...



How do you support the illegal immigriants? Do you give them jobs?

PipeGuy

That's not a point that's a restatement of the obvious. Name a country that wasn't in large part built by immigrants.
If you ask me it's not a point you seek to make but several false assertions. Assertions that include 1.) this discussion is more about immigration policy than it is the rule of law 2.) those who want existing immigration laws consistently enforced are either rascists or heartless, selfish, isolationists and 3.) individual circumstances suffice to establish a moral equivallancy between those who immigrate legally and those who don't.

What I may or may not experience in life has no bearing whatsoever on the extent to which our laws should be enforced. And I suspect that people with little or no understanding of what makes our nation propseprous have little understanding of what illegal immigration is costing our nation.

Compassion is an essential aspect of our humanity. Justice is an essential aspect of our society. There's no compassion in calling a gate crasher a 'guest worker' and no justice in legalizing otherwise illegal activity.

phinsher

If these people are so worried about their rights etc, why the heck don't they stand up for their rights in their own country?

Furthermore those who come here illegally make it tougher for those who attempt to do it legally.

"If you cannot get work for the cheaper competition, then maybe you should look for different work" <<<<<<<<just plain silly. Slavery is illegal too. You just gonna step aside if i start underpricing the work of your illegal immagrants by using slaves?

Maybe I'm wrong but if you better yourself by breaking the law, it really doesn't count. Otherwise car stealing, drug dealing prostitutes would be the people we look up to.

Gordo

If this was a wrestling match, then I would say you just submitted.

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