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Old 10-19-2017, 02:12 PM   #1
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Good afternoon all. I'll keep this short. I'm a small operation. Just me, 1 full time laborer and a part time guy. Full time guy goes to lunch today after painting all morning and gets arrested at home for battery on his girlfriends son. ... long story after that.

My question is have any of you had to testify as a character witness for your employees or am I better off to stay out of his personal business? ? His dad stopped by the jobsite to see if I could do that if needed.

And I'm painting on my own now since he's in the county lockup!

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Old 10-19-2017, 02:22 PM   #2
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Id stay out of it. Probably fire him for not returning after lunch. I learned early on that I can't be an employee savior and maintain a business.

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I would probably do it for a long term employee, but keeping it straight as an arrow, as I saw it. "He was a reliable, good with clients", etc., if he was. No bubbly b..s. testimonials. Then let the court decide.

I was called to testify between husband and wife clients, disputing whether wife arranged work for the rental properties, or they both did (he was military on active duty). I really didn't want to do it, but glad I did. I guess they were arguing fair share on assets or something.
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I don't go to court if I can help it. Hate the idea of some schmuck in a black robe whose ass sits 3 feet higher than my face playing "God"
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he'll probably plea out.

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My question first of all is, why did he go home to eat lunch, and not stay at the job-site, eat his pre-packed lunch in a half an hour, and go back to work??? That's what we do!! I guess it is your time and money?? What is your company policy? I guess that was a few questions! OPPS my bad.
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My question first of all is, why did he go home to eat lunch, and not stay at the job-site, eat his pre-packed lunch in a half an hour, and go back to work??? That's what we do!! I guess it is your time and money?? What is your company policy? I guess that was a few questions! OPPS my bad.
Maybe.......... the job site............. was close to.................. where he lived?
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My question first of all is, why did he go home to eat lunch, and not stay at the job-site, eat his pre-packed lunch in a half an hour, and go back to work??? That's what we do!! I guess it is your time and money?? What is your company policy? I guess that was a few questions! OPPS my bad.
Went home for a nooner maybe
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My question first of all is, why did he go home to eat lunch, and not stay at the job-site, eat his pre-packed lunch in a half an hour, and go back to work??? That's what we do!! I guess it is your time and money?? What is your company policy? I guess that was a few questions! OPPS my bad.
Good questions. First off small town so we typically all go home for lunch break. It's only minutes across town and is usually nice to get away for a few. If we work out of town we pack lunches and eat onsite.

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Went home for a nooner maybe
And her name just be come "BUBBA" lol
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he'll probably plea out.

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Well. He has previous record so it may not be that simple for him. He's a great hand, reliable, and works hard. But has past and current legal trouble

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His issues aren't your issues.
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I would stay away from this myself.

When people are backed into a corner they do crazy things

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If he has been with you for awhile, is a stand up guy, good worker, shows up on time and makes you money I see no harm in passing along a good word on his behalf.
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Well. He has previous record so it may not be that simple for him. He's a great hand, reliable, and works hard. But has past and current legal trouble

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Previous record? I retract my earlier comment. He's on his own.
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Previous record? I retract my earlier comment. He's on his own.
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I'm thinking you dont want to be the guy who supports a worker that beats on his girlfriends kid. Especially in a small town.
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Good afternoon all. I'll keep this short. I'm a small operation. Just me, 1 full time laborer and a part time guy. Full time guy goes to lunch today after painting all morning and gets arrested at home for battery on his girlfriends son. ... long story after that.

My question is have any of you had to testify as a character witness for your employees or am I better off to stay out of his personal business? ? His dad stopped by the jobsite to see if I could do that if needed.

And I'm painting on my own now since he's in the county lockup!

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If he is a good guy and you know him a long time or he been working for you a long time and you always had a good relationship with him etc....you can help the guy out. If not and you don't know the guy that well or he has history doing that, you don't have to do anything.
I'm sure he will be answering for what he did regardless.

That being said, when s*^t like this happens this cases usually settled with a mutual consent, meaning both will agree to what happened and say that it wasn't onesided "attack" so to speak.
If the person who was attacked keep pressing the issue, lawyers use defense tactics and try to prove that it was self-defense, or he was defending someone else like his GF in this case, or even if he was protecting his property... But this will only work if he used the reasonable amount of force...Like slapping the kid around a few times to put him in place and he dropped the dime...But if he beat the s^*t out of the kid and caused bodily harm, he could end up with a felony record.
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Went home for a nooner maybe
And then her son cock blocked him...
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I would say help him but since this isn't his first rodeo, I say stay out of it, everyone screws up but sounds like he's a frequent flyer to the judicial system, some people are just like that, I have found over the years to not bring your personal life in work, I don't

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