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Old 03-08-2018, 09:05 PM   #1
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Gotta get a quote together for installing an egress window for a good long time customer.

I've cut holes in concrete, I've put in some windows, but I have never put in an egress.

I've done my research about the required sizes and such, but I'm kinda curious about what you fellas with experience in this area have to say.

Basement walls are poured concrete. What should I be thinking about here?

I'm planning to

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Gotta get a quote together for installing an egress window for a good long time customer.

I've cut holes in concrete, I've put in some windows, but I have never put in an egress.

I've done my research about the required sizes and such, but I'm kinda curious about what you fellas with experience in this area have to say.

Basement walls are poured concrete. What should I be thinking about here?

I'm planning to

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I was the manual labor for a few...and learned the hard way what not to do. It made no economic sense, but I wasn't the boss.

Later, as part of finishing a basement, I subbed the egress window completely, and it was amazing. Not quite a two day job for them, start to finish, including excavation. Maybe I trimmed the window, but I forget.

After that, I learned the wonders of hiring a real concrete service for a basement door going through 10" poured concrete. They had my door opening cut nice, tight and clean (ring saws are amazing), and busted up the pieces into manageable pieces for me in around 2-3 hours tops. I think I paid $500 or so (that was several years ago.)

That's all I got. Save your back and sub the cut, at least.

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Absolutely sub the cut. I've done maybe 4 myself and 6 subbed.

Metal wells are cheap and easy. Concrete takes a decent amount of work and time.

You may have to move rain drains.
You may have to grind the concrete below grade on the existing wall.
Make sure you overexcavate enough for drainage gravel.
In general make sure you do what's appropriate for your area.
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Uh... Not sure what you're asking. Cut a hole, install a window.

Whatever touches concrete needs to be PT. Probably the toughest part is working out how to trim it nicely yet bulletproof on the outside.
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I've done about 50 of em.
Some were simple cut straight down the existing width and required minimal framing.

Others were engineering nightmares with lintels, counterforts, masonry, and all other kinds of nonsense.

Most of the times we've had to get engineer involved.

Concrete chain saws are not the tool to use. Never used a ring saw, but the cut n break saw was surprisingly good ad whacking out an earth formed foundation wall.

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Uh... Not sure what you're asking. Cut a hole, install a window.

Whatever touches concrete needs to be PT. Probably the toughest part is working out how to trim it nicely yet bulletproof on the outside.
Sounds simple....tree fiddy enough?
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Sounds simple....tree fiddy enough?
In no way was I asking what to charge. I've screwed up some quotes in fourteen years for sure, but I have a decent general idea about how long and what a load of work this is gonna be. I'll make sure we get paid enough.

I was just looking for sage advice and tips from those that have gone before me. Some good stuff above.

I'm loving the idea of subbing the hole cutting.....

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Drainage? You need to tie into weep tile?
Needs a ladder too?

Outfit I used last did it all. No wood involved. 10 year 100% warranty.
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I use https://www.ohioconcrete.com/ for cutting concrete. I'm not sure if they cover your area, but the last I knew they had an employee that lived in Adrian.
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My cousin did one last fall. They asked me how to do it; I said hire a professional. They decided to DIY. Now every time it rains water pours in that window opening. Hahahahahaha!
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I did a couple this last year. Had a concrete cutting service cut the hole, IMO only way to go. they did a nice job that was straight so the framing was easy to do. I did all the dirt work, told me how much room they needed to mount the saw. 36" blade. Here they have to be permitted and inspected, but that went well. All and all not bad to do , I just would never cut it myself.
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Drainage? You need to tie into weep tile?
Needs a ladder too?

Outfit I used last did it all. No wood involved. 10 year 100% warranty.
Who did you use?

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We usually have concrete cutters cut doorways for additions when adding on to the foundation. Never had a window opening cut. With doorways the excavator will over dig the area of the doorway about 12"- 14". Then we push- pull the cut concrete dropping it into the over excavated space & bury it. Not sure how others do it but this works for us.
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Use a ring saw. Doesn't even compare to a chain saw.

Excavate extra large and extra deep. Cut your hole and get the concrete out of there. Dig down to the perimeter tile and drop in rock, up to your level. Set your well. I use the steel ones that have rock painted on them.
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I seal up the sides, as best as possible. My opening gets pt lumber. I install the egress window. Trim inside and out.

Backfill. Drop in the ladder and install the top. Done.

Don't forget to order a ladder with the well. Also, I always get the poly-carbonate lid. I'm not sure what the option are, but that is the way to go. You need one strong enough that someone can walk on it. Don't want someone walking on it and falling through. As I said, that may be the only option. I don't know.

I know you didn't ask price and I'm not going to say, but I've done several of them. Charge more than you think it will be. It's a job.
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I've done a few myself. Nothing too crazy about them. Fairly straight forward. I've done enough windows to patio doors, windows to egress windows.

For the windows. I usually excavate. Go deep down to get my vertical weeper tied into weeping system. Back fill, and gravel etx.. Cut my hole vertically down. Shore the soil if you can. Install the window like a regular one. window wells etx.. Trim it and there you go.

Best advice I can give is, if you aren't too comfortable doing it then sub it out. Get someone who has experience with it. Watch them do it. Maybe one day you try one.
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I've done a few myself. Nothing too crazy about them. Fairly straight forward. I've done enough windows to patio doors, windows to egress windows.

For the windows. I usually excavate. Go deep down to get my vertical weeper tied into weeping system. Back fill, and gravel etx.. Cut my hole vertically down. Shore the soil if you can. Install the window like a regular one. window wells etx.. Trim it and there you go.

Best advice I can give is, if you aren't too comfortable doing it then sub it out. Get someone who has experience with it. Watch them do it. Maybe one day you try one.
I'm going to sub the cutting since it looks like a pain in the ass. But none of this is outside our skill level ; just never done it before in combination . Gotta start somewhere. Lord knows I can certainly dig a hole, for starters ........

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I'm going to sub the cutting since it looks like a pain in the ass. But none of this is outside our skill level ; just never done it before in combination . Gotta start somewhere. Lord knows I can certainly dig a hole, for starters ........

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I'm going to sub the cutting since it looks like a pain in the ass. But none of this is outside our skill level ; just never done it before in combination . Gotta start somewhere. Lord knows I can certainly dig a hole, for starters ........

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Best thing to do! Remember time is money! Let them come and cut it out, they have the equipment plus they can deal with any possible headache from breaking up the concrete.

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