CBC Coverage Of Illegal Immigrant Workers At Home Reno Stores

GregS

http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2008/200801/20080111.html


I caught the start of this show this morning while driving to the jobsite.

You can listen to the interviews by clicking on the "Listen To the Current Part 2"

thom

Does any body really believe the number of illegals is 12 million? The government has been using that figure for 10 years. I recently heard an estimate of 26 million. I'd guess 26 - 30 million, or 9% - !0% of the US population.

Now if you added children (just 1st generation) of illegals who were born here so they are legal you would double that number. About 18% - 20% of the US population.

And, that's why sending them all back is such a challenge. That's almost 4 times the number of unemployed. It's also a lot of empty housing if/when they leave.

I don't support leaving illegals here but, it's not a problem with a simple answer.

alienofwar

The CBC is a government controlled news network that spreads blatant leftist propaganda.

I listened to this audio, but it was very slanted towards the illegal immigrants as predicted.

Secure the border first, then deal with the illegal immigrants according to documented proof of their presence in the U.S.

If they are fresh and don't have much history in the U.S, send them back to Mexico, but if they have a family, are well situated and kicking them out would obviously be disasterous to their lives, then they should be allowed amnesty.

It's a humane and just solution to this matter.

tnt specialty

Ther most definitely is a relative SIMPLE solution;

Attempting to physically keep illegals out when we continue to allow them to be illegally employed, as well as exploit our social service programs is beyond absurd!

Make applicable gov't agencies/employees accountable for, and to enforce existing laws/regulations. That's it in a nutshell.

To break it down to the two basic "dynamics", (if you will), that would get things rolling in the right direction;

1) Big brother needs to notify employers of spurious SS#'s immediatley, and the subsequent penalties for contimuing to employ the illegal; Then, Big Brother needs to follow-up on it.

2) Big Brother, (primarilly the U.S.Dept. of Labor), needs to come down on employers who missrepresent employees as independent subcontractors. I know many will agrue this, but if one takes the laws as written, it's extremely clear that this particilar illegal practice is rampant and easily proven. In laymans' terms; A contractor cannot sub his primary service/business. In other words; A roofing contractor that subs roofing is in violation, regardless of any other employer/employee determination critria.

I can only speak from my world of contruction, but, those two actions my freinds, would be a great start to rectifying what we've sewn over the last couple of decades.

Tscarborough

The solution is simple: Remove the incentive for them to be here and they will go home. If they can't work, their kids can't go to school, and they get nothing but emergency healthcare (and a free ride home after recieving it), they will go home on their own.

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Michaeljp86

I heard 30million and I also heard 30-35 million.

I live all the way up in michigan, quite aways from the border and there is alot of them here.

My dad bought a 7 unit apartment building for a police men and they were all rented to illegals except 1 indian. There is still one unit full of cocane dealing illegals.

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SelfContract

The whole US population is like 50-60 or 100mil? So, sending that 30+ mil back home, then the US will be 1/3 or half-emtied land? Less crowd, less traffic, less polution, less work..

Michaeljp86

Sounds like a plan to me

301,139,947 (July 2007 est.)

Im not sure if thats counting illegals or not.

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tnt specialty

Tscarborough......EXACTLY!!!!!!

buildenterprise

When you have a roach problem you don't trap them and re-locate them outside your house-you remove what's attracting them and they'll leave on their own in search of it elsewhere.

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SelfContract

Perfect solution! You don't "spray/gun" them down either because each later generation their bodies will learn to be more "resistant" to chemical ingredients or learn how to overcome/fight border control.

Treat the cause of disease, not its symptoms.

Peaceful solution while avoiding confrontation & violence.

Magnettica

If the boat is sinking, the first thing that needs to be done is to get the water out of the boat. Not until all the water is gone can you begin to fix the hole. Same theory applies to the illegal alien problem in America. We need deport the people who entered the country illegally and build the fence to keep them out.

Would you let someone break into your home, live there, and then eat from your fridge at will?

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PARA1

The best answer to this problem is to annex MEXICO and make it a state, whereby we assume all of it's natural resources. Just thik of all the buiness opportunities bringing the country up to U.S. CODES.

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troubleseeker

"Secure the border first". That statement makes a great political sound bite, but it is physically impossible to secure a theoretical line in the desert thousands of miles long. Border patrol can catch some of them, but there is no way to have enough man power to watch every mile of the border 24 hrs a day. I guess we could build another Great Wall of China or Berlin Wall to slow down the surface migration numbers, but as has been well documented, there have been some pretty incredible tunnels uncovered under the border.

I do not have a problem with legal immigration ( just about all of us have forefathers who immigrated to this country for a better life), but the idea is absurd that we must openly accept every person from any country who somehow manages to get here, and automatically make you a citizen just because a pregnant illlegal snuck across before she went into labor. Born to an illegal; baby is an illegal IMO.

The only way to attack the problem is to go after those who create the demand. If a business, no matter how large or small, was at risk of major financial penalties and loss of its business licenses for hiring illegal immigrants, the demand would quickly dry up. As many have stated, we don't need MORE laws, the laws already exist, we just need to enforce the ones we have.

Why should the financial resources of this country be used to support millions of illegals who contribute nothing to the system. And while I am on my soap box, what the hell is the deal with "voting rights" for non citizens.
Non citizen, illegal, undocumented worker, or any other title or combinaton thereof you want to call them.........you have no RIGHTS to anything in this country unless oyu are a citizen.

Michaeljp86

Lets lay a line of boric acid along the border so they walk through it and take it back to their nest

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alienofwar

Good luck trying to enforce the laws on corporations when they have their hands deep in the pockets of the politicians.

They will scream and kick in reaction to any enforcement on labor codes which could affect their bottom line. Just look at how they reacted to recent enforcement in Arizona!

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deckman22

A fence is not a practical solution. Just too many other ways to get here from mexico. The mexican shrimping fleet, tunnels, hidden compartments in cars/trucks, ect. The Berlin wall did not work neither will a fence. In the end the wall came down as would a fence.

I recently read an article about a fence project/study going on at Texas A&M. Within 15 minutes border patrol agents were able to scale/cut/demolish all the fences made in the study. We would spend millions if not billions building a fence only to have it not work.

There needs to be a political solution worked out by the US & Mexican governments to solve this problem. Stopping the money flow back to Mexico would be a good first step. Getting Mexico decent jobs there would help keep them there too. Limited ammesty for those willing to stay & become tax paying legal workers who will no longer drain our social services seems the way to go to me. Enlisting the state/local governments to enforce the laws would be a big plus too, instead of turning a blind eye. Heck, just getting HD & other companies to run them off the pick up places would go a long way.

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ElliottDoor

Build a fence or whatever it takes I dont care. I just want a job.. an American job in America like I'm supposed to be able to get without the competition of lower wage illegals stepping on my jobsites taking away (ultimately) food from my table. The housing market is killing alot of construction workers. Moving the illegals back to where they belong or limiting them in some type of way should help the American construction worker get work! Why? because the American pie is only so big and its being chewed up by these people and nobody gives a rats arse. It didn't bother us a few years ago although we saw the incline of migration but we chose to just get used to it. Now we need our jobs back!

How do you do this? Hell I have no idea. I'm sure there is something amuck on the border lines though. How could they be getting across if we have trained people there to protect it? Shoot them! ask questions later. jeez what are we going to do, overfill our jails with illegals trying to come over when they know if they try and succeed they get a 15 dollar an hour job. If they fail they go to jail and get thrown back only to try again? Jeez where is the punishment? Are we retarted? Push them back and tell the freaking president of mexico its a problem and if it happens again we will take different measures.

The problem (like most things) is "you shouldnt do THIS because it will change THAT" Well, this and that should remain two seperate issues. We need to be more agressive with this no matter what. It is affecting the way we live as Americans.

Michaeljp86

We cant shoot them, dont you remember the story of the guys guarding the border and they got some illegals comming across and they had guns pointed on them until the border patrol got there.

Bush called them vigil antis, and bush started the volunteer thing. Then the poor guys got tossed in jail for it and lost their guns. There was another one where a solider who got back from iraq had some illegals try to rob him and steal his car. He had a pistol on them and called the cops and the police arrested the marine and asked the illegals if they wanted to press charges, they said no and went on their way.

WTF, how can we fix the problem when our government is the one fueling the fire.

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ElliottDoor

Yep, nothing we can do.. period. Its in the hands of the bigshot white collar people who don't see the affects its having on blue collar America. Owell, whatever happens, happens. All we can do is keep plugging along and play the hands we are dealt the best we can. Its very unfortunate though. Unfair and unjust.

Where's my tight nit group of white buddies that takes over an industry? O wait that would be racism. Huh? Does this make sense?