Can I Get In Trouble For This ????

MALCO.New.York

What the Hell do you know about Brooklyn???

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davinci

hopefully "veterans and friends" is still on 86 street! maybe i'll get the DeMeo crew,or maybe sammy's old crew if anyone is left or maybe someone who knows alley boy or an old associate it of vic or gaspipe.

MALCO.New.York

Well.... Apparently you are well versed in Brooklynese.

Just assure me that you are not Goomba or Famiglia of "Scars".

And NO! I Know not of V and F.

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WarnerConstInc.

Andersen Sux azz whole.

Sorry, they did a good job of boinking me for 800.00 bucks this year.

dirt diggler

could be worse davinci ... you coulda come on here asking how to price the job out



ok, seriously now -


DO THIS: starting tomorrow. Write down EVERYTHING relevant to this job. I mean everything - the date you started, what shoes you were wearing, anything that was said. Be careful how you "quote" things - use [brackets] to paraphrase.


I DOUBT this guy is gonna hang a "fraud" charge over you just to get upgraded windows or free labor. If he does - that is essentially, well, extortion

he'd be stupid to pull that - but, I wouldn't put it past someone.


Write EVERYTHING down.



You've GOT to get away from this job, by the sounds of this guy. I know what you're in for. It sucks buddy.



If it wasn't for the order being placed - I'd say you're scott free (no work's been done yet, right??). So you've got to get away from the order.

Talk to your supplier, explain the entire situation and that you think you might have a crook on your hands. I would bet lunch that they'd help you

Then go to the HO and explain to him that you won't be working on his project. You do not need to give him a reason - in fact DO NOT give him a reason. He doesn't need one. Tell him that you have already talked to the supplier and they will work on canceling the order.


You MIGHT end up having to pay your supplier for re-stocking or something. In your situation, that's totally fine.


I wouldn't get into this job. This guy is a problem. That's my gut feeling on it.

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trinitybrown

You are in trouble now, avoid such mistakes in future

tinner666

If you have a good relationship with your supplier, I'm sure a bit of face time early this morning will be the way to go. Try to get the 'client' there too.
Definitly call first thing and put the order on 'HOLD'.

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neolitic

Agreed, agreed.
I think this guy is gonna deny the charges
and leave you holding the bag.
And you were so helpful in letting
him do it to you.

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enforcer

there is no friggin way the guy could ever hit you with fraud charges so get that out of your head immediately; ai'nt gonna happen regardless of what anyone says.
next, call the supplier and ask them to cancel the order. if they, can't just tell the home owner he has to pay the balance when the windows arrive but he picks them up and he installs them. look him straight in the eye and tell him you may have been born in the dark but it was'nt last night and he better go to scam school because his scam ai'nt working on you. take his act to another contractor.
some guys here are giving you heat but ignore the bull****,they have all been in similar and more than likely much worse situations so just ignore them. at least you are'nt going to suffer a loss.

enforcer

by the way DAVINCI,don't call mikey scars, he is in hiding. there are'nt many guys left on 18th ave,they all moved over the bridge my man. find a young ambitious guy who wants to prove himself and ask him to visit the guy. those types will do anything if they think you are connected!

MALCO.New.York

He COULD certainly get you charged but NOT convicted.

You forget Enforcer, the law works differently for different persons.

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enforcer

i've KNOW the system,no way they will charge him. a grand jury would never indict. also,he has e-mails and a contract stating he is getting him windows. if he did press charges, davinci would have a very easy lawsuit and there are millions of ambulance chasers that would love a case like that. he can also be charged for filing false charges.

MALCO.New.York

I completely disagree...But......................I do doubt that this scumbaaaag is going to go that route.

Stick to yer guns and beat this guy at his own game. It is, after all, just a game that this coccccksukker thinks he can win based on his prediction of your lack of ability to counteract his ploy.

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pudge565

My grandmother lets me use her card occasionally. I just sign her name and then mine below her's. That way if there are any questions they know who to contact. Then again the place that I used it had people working there that knew my grandmother and me so it was all good.

buildpinnacle

First off, depending on where you are working...you can be charged of anything. I have peers who have done work in small, rural areas where 100% civil issues regarding breach were threatened with criminal charges. DA's in the particular state I am referring to do not have to submit to a Grand Jury to charge...they request it from the judge. The justice system is no different than our political system. People with money or connections get what they want.

That being said. Fraud is the hardest thing to prosecute. They have to prove ALL of the following:

That the offending party made a false representation to you.

That at the time the false statement was made or deception done, the offender knew it was false. This means the falsehood was intentional, or at least made with a reckless disregard for the truth, not just negligence.

That at the time the misrepresentation was made, the offender intended that you rely on it.

That you did rely on it.

That you were damaged because you relied on it.

No lawyer here, but to keep fraud out of question, I say install the windows. If he accepts the product, how can he come back and say you made false charges on his card? In you warranty or final reciept or whatever, make reference to the material charges of such and such paid for by HO via credit card transaction. Or some such.

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gregj

If you just did this today you should call and cancel the order immediately. I'm sure Anderson hasn't started making the windows yet.

rbsremodeling

Agree with this 100%

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AtlanticWBConst

Just another example of why it is best to put EVERYTHING in writing. It can help you when dealing with "crooked" clients/HO's.

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A W Smith

i agree. CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL and walk away. the guys already being a ****. If the merchant already knows that theres a good chance they are at risk they should have no problems canceling since they are on the hook for a charge back. I am surprised that the merchant accepted it in the first place. I did a garage per diem this summer and the yard wouldn't even take the clients card over the phone. he had to come in himself and sign up and make an imprint. For every purchase. he couldn't even add on for subsequent deliveries with an open ticket. I am assuming this merchant is aware you were not the card holder? Right? Right? If not you can potentially be in big trouble.

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neolitic

Read your own credit card agreements.
The card holder can challenge any charge.
I have seen people take merchandise from
a store, deny the charges, keep the
merchandise, and get away with it.
If the guy wants to stiff your supplier,
guess who isn't gonna be your friend any more?

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