Butchered Joists

Celtic

What are some solutions to the butchered joists the plumbers always seem to leave in their wake?


Doing a remodel on my first flr bath .....sistered up all the joists....now I have to play plumber and cut in the drain for the new tub ~ which is right where the old tub was.

The previous plumber hacked a good portion of the joist out...I'll probably wind up doing similar to my new sister joist.

So what do you do?
Slap a couple of 2x4's on either side of the 2x8's?

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HusqyPro

Good question for the plumbers:

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naptown CR

or use 3/4 ply nt much choice there. Simpson or soneone makes a repair plate for this but I think it is for TJI's

Magnettica

Is there room for a new lolly column?

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Celtic

I've got some 3/4 left over from the floor...I also have 2x4's...LOL.



I remember seeing those plates here...drilling it out would certainly be better than hacking/notching the joists.

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Celtic

It'll piss the wife off when it runs through the dryer



....we had one added for the dormer addition....the archy over engineered the ridge beam [triple micro lam]...so the building dept. "decided" to make us put in an additional lolly.

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ChrWright

If the drain lands center of the joist, we usually header it off or full-depth, full-length sister it to one side so the notching doesn't matter.

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HusqyPro

Your wifes reaction:

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Celtic

This particular joist is like the bathroom king of joists.
Probably in THE worst possible spot....

The tub drain assembly goes through it at one end....at the other the toilet flange/soil pipe makes it's appearance in the bath.
So the joist gets cut to allow that mess in....and gets blocked with a 4" hole in the blocking.





You can just make out where the old toilet flange was there to the left by the clamp

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neolitic

Joist are over rated.

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ChrWright

Drum traps are so yummy...

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Celtic

...and here I am....concerned with weight even after I removed the cast iron tub to be replaced with a fiberglass or acrylic tub that weighs less then my kids do.

Think I can return the 2x8's to HD

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BKFranks

How much does that tub weigh full of water with a 250 pound person in it?

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neolitic

That one had been replaced
some time in the late 50's(?).
Then in the 70's someone added
a P-trap up stream.
They are totally amazed at how
fast the tub drains now!

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Celtic

No one is inviting your fat ass over here


The tub will always weigh the same
What's IN the tub will vary....gallons of water, number of kids, volume of toys

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neolitic

If you're just gonna go and
drill holse in 'em anyway,
the plywood sandwich is far
stronger than sistering with
dimensional.
(Notice that the old gaps were
filled as well.)

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Celtic

While mine is not nearly as hacked as that bath was....those pictures are worth the thousand words.

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neolitic

Certainly was enough pain
in their acquisition.

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Cdat

Wood was invented to be cut with a saw...

freemason21

jesus some of those are horrific. my plumber (who happens to be my uncle) plumbed the 2nd bathroom im adding in my house. he gets ready to leave and goes "oh by the way, you're going to have to head off a floor joist, i cut it."

oh... i see... i went and jumped on the area where he said he cut it, a good 5 times. im 300 pounds and it didnt budge so screw right? who cares baaa fahgetaboutit