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Old 12-08-2008, 05:13 PM   #21
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Re: Book On Reading/Understanding Blueprints?


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You were hired on without being able to read a set of prints accurately?
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wow. glad I have spent my adult life working to perfect my craft so that the economy can push me to the edge of not making it, Just as long as some dude who has been "out of construction" for a few years can come around and ask for help for a job that anyone here could do in their sleep. wow....
I won't apologize, that's how I feel as well.
Nothing personal to the OP.
If you can B/S your way into a job that you
aren't qualified for....good for you!
But it sucks for the guys you are supposed
to "manage." (I assume PM still means project manager)
Seems to me that there haven't been
many occasions where I saw a job suffer
because the supervision was too experienced.

"Oh, isn't that cute?
The "Boss" is willing to learn!"
I don't think so.

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Old 12-08-2008, 06:06 PM   #22
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I still use multi-color highlighters to this day. Anything that is out of the "norm" gets yellow. it works like a charm for me.



That was the original reason for getting the book I suggested oh so long ago. Reading the prints for my particular aspect wasn't difficult for me at the time, but plumbing, electric, etc I never had to deal with so I bought the book to learn. It has helped me immensely over the years and I would enthusiastically suggest it to any the younger guys reading this post who only focus on their trade.

Without a doubt. You don't really realize -- at least I didn't realize it until someone drilled through a hot water base board heating copper pipe and I couldn't stop the water from spilling into a customers finished basement -- that you need to know at least the bare minimum of some of the other trades to make your job easier. After that experience I bought books and learned 'enough to be dangerous' about the other trades.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:35 PM   #23
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"Oh, isn't that cute?
The "Boss" is willing to learn!"
I don't think so.
Wow, if you put it like that, sure, it sounds completely ridiculous.

Man, I absolutely get your point about inexperience. Even more so if you take it to that extreme.

"People management" and "construction know-how" are totally different skills. Same with client management (aka client relations.)

I've seen jobs lose some money because of technical mistakes due to inexperience. We need to avoid that. Throwing some noob in there is reckless and foolish.

However, I've also seen jobs lose big time money; like more than double the cost of the job, "had-to-buy-the-house-back" kind of money, as a result of "hot-headedness" and poor ability to be professional around clients. Can't bite your tongue? Bitter? Angry? That will get the attorneys involved faster than you can say "GFY." (first word "Go," last word "Yourself")

I've fallen victim on occasion to feeling like my skills are unappreciated. In construction, that's a daily battle. It's almost like the older and more experienced you get, the less respect you get sometimes.

I can see both sides, when I think about it.
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:56 PM   #24
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Thanks for the warm welcome there...

Its not a matter of not being able to read them, its a matter of continuing to learn more about different symbols and such that I havent had see before. Its the first time I get to be a project manager, and I dont want to mess it up. Is there something wrong with that??
they should have a legend for the symbology used. Every architect I have dealt with has their own symbols for various items. There are a lot of statndards but there is no requirement for them to be so a legend is a must have.

Honestly, unless this job is building a doghouse, you really should be working under a skilled person until you have some experience in the field.

the other thing about inexperience is; boy are the trades going to walk all over you. If you don;t know what you are doing with this, they are going to tell you how things are supposed to be and without experience to back you up, what are you going to do?
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:51 PM   #25
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Thanks for the help everyone.

I'm a hard worker, and I'm not looking for these books because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. I'm reading up because I don't want to mess up. Sure there are things I can do blind folded, but I'm still going to read and re-read because thats what works for me.

The last time I worked onsite was 4 years ago for a builder who built homes from 4-8mil and I def did the trial by fire deal. In this new job I refuse to have to make any significant mistakes. Thus reading helps.

I didnt BS my way into this job. I was completely honest and its not my first real estate job, nor my first construction job.

I have worked with subs before so I'm honestly not too worried about them walking over me. I'm doing some spanish classes to help that out as well - which is another case of trying to over learn since I'm already conversational in Spanish.

Its been my dream to be a developer my entire life. I'm finally in a position Ill be happy with for a long time. It was my second major in college (first being finance), and since then I've worked for builders, appraisers, and realtors - My theory is theres nothing wrong with being over qualified!

Thanks to all!
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best of luck to ya. It sounds like there is more to you than you have presented (hope so). Your first post did come across as somebody without a clue. Maybe you could work on those first impressions
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:15 PM   #27
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I agree (with Seth). But i also understand how Deadhead feels - and honestly that was my first reaction too.


But then I got to thinking.



"Wow - someone that actually wants to learn ..."

like a damn Twilight Zone episode.


I'll certainly take this over someone who "claims" they already know how to read the plans
The SINGLE largest complaint I have with my "high dollar" men, both past and present, is that they do NOT take the time to learn how to read the damn plans! Not take the time to read them, but take the time to learn how to read them correctly and what everything means.

If I get a phone call, or a site visit with the H/O or architect, and I have to walk away for a few minutes, I sometimes come back to a complete pile of crap that has to be re-done. Makes me nuts, but it's hard to find good help that can read plans AND build from them as well.
Seems like I get one or the other.
Best of luck to the OP.
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