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Old 11-14-2017, 11:28 AM   #81
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He paid for a new wall, not a cracked bowed one pushed back in place and epoxied. all depends on the contract.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:42 AM   #82
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He paid for a new wall, not a cracked bowed one pushed back in place and epoxied. all depends on the contract.
Agreed...but it can be replaced corner to corner as mentioned and be fine.


I am lucky..if this ever happened on one of my foundations my foundation sub would fix it no questions asked.
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I agree with you........to an extant. Are we talking about some trim nails missing putty or a few trowel marks on the slab,or this foundation problem ?


As I mentioned in a previous post this screw up would not give me a whole bunch of confidence in the builder. Not to mention the points raised by others regarding what type if any waterproofing was used and was it well drained back fill placed or clay from the excavation. The answer to those questions would determine how fast I would want to divorce myself from the builder. Could possibly be a blessing in disguise.
What I meant is there will always be mistakes made on every project, and some are big ones.
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So all of your jobs are done 100% without defect from start to finish?

Yes they are.
When I turn over the product I produce it is done correctly and functioning the way it is supposed to.

If there is a defective product it is brought to the attention of the supplier. I expect it to be replaced. That may mean I have to go out and redo the job to replace the defective product. I don't get paid for that.

Once in a while...let it slide.
Repetitive...let supplier know why I am dumping their product line.
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Today our builder got back to us his engineer report. The engineer want the basement slab to be poured ,1st floor deck to be put in ,respray the waterproof on the outside and epoxy the cracks from the inside .
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Yes they are.
When I turn over the product I produce it is done correctly and functioning the way it is supposed to.

If there is a defective product it is brought to the attention of the supplier. I expect it to be replaced. That may mean I have to go out and redo the job to replace the defective product. I don't get paid for that.

Once in a while...let it slide.
Repetitive...let supplier know why I am dumping their product line.
I didn't ask if the final product was 100% defect free. You made my point, any issues you resolve. So to say his home would be devalued because of a repair to a defect is is incorrect.
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Today our builder got back to us his engineer report. The engineer want the basement slab to be poured ,1st floor deck to be put in ,respray the waterproof on the outside and epoxy the cracks from the inside .
Now that I wouldn't accept.
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Today our builder got back to us his engineer report. The engineer want the basement slab to be poured ,1st floor deck to be put in ,respray the waterproof on the outside and epoxy the cracks from the inside .
Something's missing, no?
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Today our builder got back to us his engineer report. The engineer want the basement slab to be poured ,1st floor deck to be put in ,respray the waterproof on the outside and epoxy the cracks from the inside .
Something's missing, no?
Nothing missing,going pour slab on Thursday. He said he is only going by what his engineer says only and no one else
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So the wall will remain bowed?
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Nothing missing,going pour slab on Thursday. He said he is only going by what his engineer says only and no one else


And who pays HIS engineer.........he does. I'd get an opinion from MY engineer if I was in your shoes.
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Nothing missing,going pour slab on Thursday. He said he is only going by what his engineer says only and no one else
i wouldnt accept that. if you had one or maybe 2 cracks in that wall, then maybe that'd be ok, but since your wall is cracked in 4 spots, there is no support except for the floor framing holding the wall.
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Today our builder got back to us his engineer report. The engineer want the basement slab to be poured ,1st floor deck to be put in ,respray the waterproof on the outside and epoxy the cracks from the inside .
Unacceptable. The wall needs to be put back in place. I would insist that appropriate tiebacks are installed per an engineered design. Additionally, you should press them for some kind of give back in addition to the warranty.
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No way do they leave that wall bowed. Now itís officially time to call a lawyer to get you out of the contract. He can fix it per his engineer, maybe he can also sell the house to his engineer while heís at it. That wall looks horrible and will look worse when thereís a floor framed on top of it.
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No way do they leave that wall bowed. Now itís officially time to call a lawyer to get you out of the contract. He can fix it per his engineer, maybe he can also sell the house to his engineer while heís at it. That wall looks horrible and will look worse when thereís a floor framed on top of it.


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Hey guys,we should probably back off. We have stated our position on the topic. As the old saying goes "a word to the wise should be sufficient". It's his money,he has the right to dissipate it any way he chooses.
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Today our builder got back to us his engineer report. The engineer want the basement slab to be poured ,1st floor deck to be put in ,respray the waterproof on the outside and epoxy the cracks from the inside .
No, no &no. The foundation supports the 1st floor not the other way around. I had a 40' wall get broken in 3 places and have a 2.5" bow at the worst part. My structural engineer required 4" c channel 10ft long at 3 different locations with bolting patterns, epoxy injection, & dig down and repair all waterproofing from the exterior.

You need to hire your own SE with your interests in mind. He is getting "taken care" from his engineer IMO. At the end of the day you need a letter signed off from any SE and a copy of their insurance policy stating that they are covered for owning the repair they describe.

This can be fixed with the right people involved. I would never accept a 4" bowed wall with epoxy as the fix.
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Today our builder got back to us his engineer report. The engineer want the basement slab to be poured ,1st floor deck to be put in ,respray the waterproof on the outside and epoxy the cracks from the inside .
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Nothing missing,going pour slab on Thursday. He said he is only going by what his engineer says only and no one else
This person has not

a; said who he is
b; said where he is
c; said what his contractor status or trade is

Have to take what little this person does say with a grain of salt - more likely a whole shaker of salt.

Typical homeowner/one post wonder - presents just those "facts" that encourage sympathy or "petting" from the gullible. There is more to this story being left out than is being told here.

While the rest of you are knee-jerking, I will remind you that "The Builder" has every right to make repairs "suitable for intended purpose" and until those actions are carried through and completed no one is in a position to yell lawyer or fire.

jeesh...
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Today our builder got back to us his engineer report. The engineer want the basement slab to be poured ,1st floor deck to be put in ,respray the waterproof on the outside and epoxy the cracks from the inside .
No, no &no. The foundation supports the 1st floor not the other way around. I had a 40' wall get broken in 3 places and have a 2.5" bow at the worst part. My structural engineer required 4" c channel 10ft long at 3 different locations with bolting patterns, epoxy injection, & dig down and repair all waterproofing from the exterior.

You need to hire your own SE with your interests in mind. He is getting "taken care" from his engineer IMO. At the end of the day you need a letter signed off from any SE and a copy of their insurance policy stating that they are covered for owning the repair they describe.

This can be fixed with the right people involved. I would never accept a 4" bowed wall with epoxy as the fix.
I did have my structural engineer look at it yesterday and said that the wall has to be repour,but the builder said he is only going to do what his engineer said and not what my engineer says.
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No full value FHA loans with Three + cracks in the foundation that extend the full height of the basement.....


The overdigging of the footings means MOST LIKELY the FOOTING is BROKEN TOO......if it rained after the clay was exposed, but before the footers were poured, they would have only a fraction of normal lateral resistance/friction.....


The House #s across the street are 7505,7, and 9....durn hi resolution digital cameras....

One full depth poured stoop probably would have "saved" this basement.... or a Fireproof/gun safe vault poured against the long wall.....

Get the Engineer's # and see if he/she is an actual Structural engineer or soil Engineer

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