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Old 11-12-2017, 11:35 AM   #41
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Footing settlement could also be the issue, is there a vertical crack in the footer also?
that too... That wall is FUBAR no saving it or repairing it.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:34 PM   #42
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Have a cracked foundation. The wall is bowed about 4 inches in, and cracked in several places, with some reaching top to bottom and all the way through. What are my options for this, is there an acceptable repair or should the foundation come down and be re-poured?
Is that an 8? tall wall? How long is it?
It is an 8? tall wall and about 40? in length
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It is an 8? tall wall and about 40? in length
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Footing settlement could also be the issue, is there a vertical crack in the footer also?
The footer look okay, but they were covered in cement dust so it was hard to say for sure
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Crap does happen and in todays world & its all about legally protecting yourself. Thats just the way it goes.
Whats the harm in having your lawyer do a contract review & provide guidance for getting the issue resolved? I never said sue the builder!
A lawyer can also bring up concerns that the op may not have considered. For example how will a repaired foundation effect the value of a new structure.
...is that how you'd do it when you buy a new car and there's a problem? Before calling the dealer you call a lawyer to see how the value of the car might be after the repair was made?

Sorry, I shouldn't pick...just seems that calling a lawyer before calling the contractor seems a bit harsh. I understand if you talk things over with the builder and you aren't comfortable with the resolution, but Friday afternoon you discover something and Monday you're on the horn with an attorney before ever even trying to hear from the guy who's responsible?
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If it were my dirt guy he'd looking for a new job. More than likely it was back filled to soon (less than 10 days). We'll back fill the inside to maintain equal pressure. 8 foot walls with no interior fill is asking for trouble. Somebody's gonna eat this. This can be repaired but it needs to go back to the corners and re-poured. In "Production Construction" it all about time. In this case time was rushed. Oh by the way your closing date has now been bumped. This is about 2 week repair.

If you are dealing with a major builder you should have a "builders representative" call them Monday morning and request a site visit regarding the issue for that day or ASAP. If you get the run around go above there head. You'll want to see an Engineering Report on the fix and ask for it to be re-inspected.
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So John, your profile says you're a contractor, yet you're having your house built by a contractor. This forum is for actual contractors, and I'm sensing that you aren't really one of us.

Care to enlighten us?
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Get out of here, you.

I'm invested at this point. I need resolution. At least keep it open until he talks to his builder.
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33: Your picture appears to show 9' high walls??? AND the footing side mostly exposed, if the long busted wall footings are machine dug to the bottom of the footer completely, the spread footing is most likely destroyed/broken too.... One more lazy man builder technique that will bite your lower parts.

NO ONE wants their wife to drive a car that been totaled in a bad wreck, no matter how good the frame welder is....

If your leg bone was broke an inch away from either joint, could it ever be splinted as strong as a unbroken bone?

The Cracks Have ZERO tensile strength, when it rains 10 inches in a week and liquidizes all 8' plus of earth bearing against it, will it hold the weight of ~200 pounds per cubic foot of sloppy clay and water? 24/7 till the soil drys?
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So John, your profile says you're a contractor, yet you're having your house built by a contractor. This forum is for actual contractors, and I'm sensing that you aren't really one of us.

Care to enlighten us?
I mostly do structural steel work
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Footing settlement could also be the issue, is there a vertical crack in the footer also?

I was thinking the exact same thing.

At the very least the entire wall needs to be completely cleared and cleaned of all backfill so the footing can be closely inspected.

I agree with an earlier post.

It's a new development. Pick another lot and let the builder straighten this mess out and pawn it off on somebody else.
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Do a close read of your sales literature and contract.


Does it state that your new home has a continuously poured foundation.

If they cut out the bad section and replace, you no longer have a continuously poured foundation.
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Looks like pretty crummy concrete work all the way around.
I'd at minimum insist on a long term written warranty saying that they will repair to your satisfaction in the event of structural issues or leakage. Get it in hand and have your attorney check it out before you pay anything.
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Do a close read of your sales literature and contract.


Does it state that your new home has a continuously poured foundation.

If they cut out the bad section and replace, you no longer have a continuously poured foundation.
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I was thinking the exact same thing.

At the very least the entire wall needs to be completely cleared and cleaned of all backfill so the footing can be closely inspected.

I agree with an earlier post.

It's a new development. Pick another lot and let the builder straighten this mess out and pawn it off on somebody else.
1) I highly doubt it. The pour is dependent upon the ground terrain.

2) He's got money locked in escrow for that Lot.
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Looks like pretty crummy concrete work all the way around.
I'd at minimum insist on a long term written warranty saying that they will repair to your satisfaction in the event of structural issues or leakage. Get it in hand and have your attorney check it out before you pay anything.
Builder has to give a lifetime warranty on foundations in my state.
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Would help a lot of the mud guys would use number 5 bar on the horizontals.
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Today the builder got back to us saying that the engineer told him to have some of the dirt removed to relieve the stress from the wall so he can inspect it tomorrow,and also said he would most likely be injecting epoxy in the wall to fix it
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Today the builder got back to us saying that the engineer told him to have some of the dirt removed to relieve the stress from the wall so he can inspect it tomorrow,and also said he would most likely be injecting epoxy in the wall to fix it
That better not be all they do.
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Didn't open this thread until just now.

...and now I'm going to pretend I never looked at it.

Hey John33 - where the **** are you located? At least give enough info to make 2nd guessing have some credo.
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Builder has to give a lifetime warranty on foundations in my state.
You and I are in different states with very similarly spelled names...

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