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Old 11-11-2017, 08:02 PM   #21
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If they do re-pour the wall, how will it be able to join the new wall with the existing walls? Is it possible to join concrete without leaks?
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Old 11-11-2017, 08:25 PM   #22
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If they do re-pour the wall, how will it be able to join the new wall with the existing walls? Is it possible to join concrete without leaks?
It has to be tied in with rebar and epoxy then poured . If it's all prepared right I don't see it ever leaking, concrete sticks like **** to other dry concrete
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DO NOT allow them to simply push that wall back to save them money, it needs to be replaced, and YES, you can replace part of the foundation w/o water issues. There's a number of products that can be applied to the existing wall before the new wall is poured, to assure it won't leak Sika "Swellstop"and "Voclay" are two products we've used in the past for exactly this. Obviously, it needs to be doweled together adequately as well.

I'll never understand why builders insist on pushing these things so fast when it's inevitable that eventually you're going to have an issue like this. We've been using bracing like this for years, it literally takes a minute to install each one, cheap insurance.

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They can probably get it pushed back and repair the cracks. That still leaves you with a new yet repaired foundation and a bad taste in your mouth.
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Sure, it can be "fixed" but it's not like you're ever going to unsee what happened. If it was my house the builder would have to give me something back, if that part of the wall is repaired.
Are you dead set on that lot? Looks like there's room around there.
Pick a different lot and start over. Let the "Well-Known Builder" have it for a spec.

Or as said, gotta get something back.

My late on-set of OCD would not let me live with that chit, again.
I lived with a fu^&ed shop floor that I had done. Got some $$ back.
Thought that would make me feel better. Every time I looked at that floor it pissed me off. Was kinda happy to move to a new shop. Not as big as the old one and missing some amenities.
But I don't have to look at that Fu^&ing floor anymore.
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Old 11-11-2017, 10:35 PM   #25
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Get your money back NOW, and beat the rush when all the other silly things he did to "save" money become apparent to the masses in his "Quality" homes that will be know as the lemons they truly are.

Get another home builder, this one is a proven dud.

Where is the 2-3 inches of blue/pink board to keep the basement warm/Cool????

Where is the Damproofing coating on the basement???????

Why didn't the clown POUR the concrete floor PRIOR to backfilling and install the flooring to brace the walls at NO EXTRA COSTs?

This is a "totaled" home, you couldn't NEVER sell it with out revealing the defective foundation, Ask a banker that doesn't work with the house shacker if he'd loan money on home with a broken foundation, other then a repair loan.

Posting the picture of your broken foundation in front of neighbors houses revealed to the world this house is defective to all the World and where it is at....Act accordingly.

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i'm not an engineer, nor architect. but i've dug/backfilled hundreds, if not thousands of these. were that "my" house, i'd have that wall dug back out...sawed off at the corners, demo'd, repoured.

i'd never accept a repair on that bowed wall.
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:26 PM   #27
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I would be calling my lawyer before the builder.
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Old 11-12-2017, 01:53 AM   #28
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i seen a wall get pushed in before. concrete guys used jacks to push it back out. then poured a square column in the middle next to wall to support it. that was 20 years ago and no issue since. of course it doesnt look the best, but it is what it is.

how many cracks are there?
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I will admit, when I looked at the picture, I thought maybe the concrete guys let their forms get away from them.

Thats a concrete wall with a rebar grid, and to be pushed in 4 inches after its already set, in my opinion, it certainly needs to come out and be repoured.

If you dont want to be the bad guy and have this conversation with the builder, the inspector will.

No inspector will let anyone build a house on on foundation like that.

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I've seen this before. The guy backfilling, ran the machine parallel to the foundation. Never good.

As far as insulation, there isn't enough in the picture to see that.

Waterproofing. Still not enough in the picture. If you could see the waterproofing, that would be another issue. I keep the waterproofing below the grade line. Nothing worse than seeing waterproofing sticking out above the grade.
If they used silicone waterproofing, you wouldn't see it anyway.

I've backfilled alot, at this point. Just never bowed a wall. Not uncommon to backfill before pouring the floor. They just did it wrong.

Just because some guy on a machine, screwed up your foundation, doesn't mean the builder is bad. At this point, you don't even know what his reaction is, or what he plans on doing.
Maybe he had already seen it and has been talking to the excavator. Maybe he hasn't seen it. The guy backfilled and the builder hasn't been out to see his work.

I think it could be pushed back out and the cracks sealed. Personally I would prefer to see that section removed and re-poured.
Somebody makes a water stop, to be used when two pours but up against each other. I've seen it specd in footings and I remember using it one time. I had to cut a notch in the existing concrete, stick one side in the cured concrete, seal it, then the new pour covered the rubber piece.

It's not uncommon to see pours in more than one section. Larger pours require this. Sometimes there just aren't enough forms.
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I've seen this before. The guy backfilling, ran the machine parallel to the foundation. Never good.

It's not uncommon to see pours in more than one section. Larger pours require this. Sometimes there just aren't enough forms.
Not to mention superior brand factory made walls are a bunch of small sections bolted together on site.
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Just have a good, calm talk with your builder. Everyone makes mistakes and you don't really know who's mistake it is yet. I always tell my clients that the difference between a successful build and a stressful one isn't that one doesn't have any issues, it's that one handles the issues in a calm and professional manner.
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I would be calling my lawyer before the builder.
...a good lawyer's first question would be? "have you talked to the builder? what'd he say?"

...a bad one? "That's worth a couple million to you, yeah?"

Chat with the builder, chances are, if he's a decent reasonable 'reputable' builder like is stated he'll simply agree that's a problem and the GC, basement wall guy, and excavation company will all work together and deal with the problem. Crap happens, "call your lawyer first" is unfortunately what our world has come to...
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I've seen this before. The guy backfilling, ran the machine parallel to the foundation. Never good.

It's not uncommon to see pours in more than one section. Larger pours require this. Sometimes there just aren't enough forms.
Not to mention superior brand factory made walls are a bunch of small sections bolted together on site.

When walking along the wall, I see about 6 cracks (all from top-to-bottom), 2 of the cracks are on both corners. If the wall is saw cut at both ends and re-poured, will this be as structurally sound and leakproof as it was before the wall was damaged?
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My answer on this depends on whether It's in termite country.
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When walking along the wall, I see about 6 cracks (all from top-to-bottom), 2 of the cracks are on both corners. If the wall is saw cut at both ends and re-poured, will this be as structurally sound and leakproof as it was before the wall was damaged?
Your builder is going to have to get an engineer to draw up a repair. If he’s a good sized builder he’ll already have a suitable engineer in his Rolodex.


Did you hire the builder or just agree to buy one of his houses in his development? What State are you in?

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Have a cracked foundation. The wall is bowed about 4 inches in, and cracked in several places, with some reaching top to bottom and all the way through. What are my options for this, is there an acceptable repair or should the foundation come down and be re-poured?
Is that an 8 tall wall? How long is it?
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...a good lawyer's first question would be? "have you talked to the builder? what'd he say?"

...a bad one? "That's worth a couple million to you, yeah?"

Chat with the builder, chances are, if he's a decent reasonable 'reputable' builder like is stated he'll simply agree that's a problem and the GC, basement wall guy, and excavation company will all work together and deal with the problem. Crap happens, "call your lawyer first" is unfortunately what our world has come to...
Crap does happen and in todays world & its all about legally protecting yourself. Thats just the way it goes.
Whats the harm in having your lawyer do a contract review & provide guidance for getting the issue resolved? I never said sue the builder!
A lawyer can also bring up concerns that the op may not have considered. For example how will a repaired foundation effect the value of a new structure.
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Footing settlement could also be the issue, is there a vertical crack in the footer also?
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What a crap job...doesn't anyone utilize pilasters anymore?

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