Arson On Job

widco

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River Rat Dad

Is this one of those eco terrorist things?

Teetorbilt

I'm voting for the neighbor with the blocked view. What just happened to their property value?

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River Rat Dad

The mystery is they, whoever they are, only torched the doors and windows...

I vote for the window/door salesman......

widco

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asbestos

Setting off a car bomb on a crowded street killing scores of people and dozens of childern is terrorism.

Burning a bunch of windows is arson.

I had a post about a house here that lit up, could be anybody- disgruntled worker, ex-wife,neighbor, insurance fraud, sub,

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ApgarNJ

that's ashame that someone would do that, but i would definitely be looking at the neighbor with the blocked view, people will go to any lengths when they feel they have been wronged. probably old timers who have lived there a long time.
I install only marvin windows and doors and i can't imagine going to my job and seeing them all destroyed like that. no one saw anything at all?

Tom R

Now who would wanna go 'n try 'n burn a project done by a guy named 'asbestos'??

asbestos

Naw, I was not working on it. All I did was show up at 11:45 at night to put it out. forgot the weinnies though

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Ted Koppel

DaveH

Is the guy with a blocked view the local Anderson Window Rep.?

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River Rat Dad

Testimony of James F. Jarboe, Domestic Terrorism Section Chief, Counterterrorism Division, FBI
Before the House Resources Committee, Subcommittee on Forests and Forest Health
February 12, 2002
"The Threat of Eco-Terrorism"


"Good morning Chairman McInnis, Vice-Chairman Peterson, Congressman Inslee and Members of the Subcommittee. I am pleased to have the opportunity to appear before you and discuss the threat posed by eco-terrorism, as well as the measures being taken by the FBI and our law enforcement partners to address this threat."

"Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States (or its territories) without foreign direction, committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

"Since 1977, when disaffected members of the ecological preservation group Greenpeace formed the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and attacked commercial fishing operations by cutting drift nets, acts of "eco-terrorism" have occurred around the globe. The FBI defines eco-terrorism as the use or threatened use of violence of a criminal nature against innocent victims or property by an environmentally-oriented, subnational group for environmental-political reasons, or aimed at an audience beyond the target, often of a symbolic nature."

The above quotes were taken from the FBI website. The FBI has a definition of eco-terrorist. RRD doesn't make these things up.

AAPaint

I don't think it's a good idea labeling US citizens as terrorists. That could be very dangerous...

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River Rat Dad

Defining a terrorist is a game of semantics. To me its about their deeds and not their passports

Brickie

Hmmm.........So US Citizens like Tomothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Ted Kaczynski,etc., are misguided Boy Scouts and not terrorists?

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ApgarNJ

i have no problem calling wackjob americans who try and kill people here, terrorists, they are just homegrown.
the ones on 9/11 were living here for a while too. we just didn't know it.

this instance though. i would call it arson, like others have said.

the eco terrorists are a bad group though. for being so eco friendly, why are they burning all those plastics and crap that a house is built with, just to prove a point. that's worse for the environment than the building going up.

TimNJ

The Toyota club I belong to has its annual show at the Queen Mary. I don't remember there being much residential housing in that area. Just a lot of docks and the Long Beach downtown area. I haven't been out there in two years though.

River Rat Dad

I drive a Honda...wanna fight?.....

widco

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asbestos

"Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States (or its territories) without foreign direction, committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

\ The FBI defines eco-terrorism as the use or threatened use of violence of a criminal nature against innocent victims or property by an environmentally-oriented, subnational group for environmental-political reasons, or aimed at an audience beyond the target, often of a symbolic nature."

The above quotes were taken from the FBI website. The FBI has a definition of eco-terrorist. RRD doesn't make these things up. [/QUOTE]

OK so martin pang burns his familys warehouse and kills 4 Seattle Firefighters for monitary gains. but since there was no political objective he is somehow better?

Then I suppose also the "wise use" yah hoo's who smash road gates in federal lands to put roads through are "eco-terrorists" Or is it only those who oppose the status quo?

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You want absolutely security? You want to be totally protected against terrorism? I have a proposal for you: A one way ticket to Panmunjom in North Korea. Guarantee you, they have absolute security. You will have absolute protection against terrorism. There is no terrorism in North Korea except the terrorism, of course, that is wielded by the state itself. Because there is no privacy, there are no constitutional rights, there is no freedom. But you've got security.
Ted Koppel

River Rat Dad

The issue isn't one of who's "better" or who's worse". Its just semantics. A definition for a word or phrase. A definition for "eco-terrorist" has been established, thats all I'm saying.

You called me out as incorrect in my use of the term eco-terrorist. All I am pointing out is the term in fact exists whether you like it or not.