Anyone Familiar With This Product

genecarp

I am meeting with the rep for this product on mon morning, i am considering it for my own house, any thoughts?

http://www.sealoflex.com/files/pdf/2...o%20System.pdf

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MGSProperties

keep us updated

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Chris Johnson

When new products come out such as this I like to see an ICC report, it raises my comfort level.

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6stringmason

Something that might interest you is fossilcrete. I went to a demo and tried doing some and its pretty nice looking and easy.

Its also waterproof and very customizable as far as color goes.

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Tscarborough

Would it hurt your feelings if I called it junk?

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Tscarborough

Fossilcrete looks to be better, but I don't like the use of expanded polystyrene keystones and accessories. They do at least specify lathing.

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genecarp

no it does not hurt my feeling, i did not invent the stuff, i am just interested in it. what dont you like about the product that makes you call it junk?

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Tscarborough

If you are buildng a Best Western hotel to flip, or plan on building future slum housing, then this is a great product. It is cheap, as well it should be.

Basically, you have plywood coated with a primer and then 1/4" of acrylic finish. That is the whole "system".

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genecarp

i am in no way trying to debate these different systems with you, as i do not have knowledge in traditional stucco, or eifs systems, i am however trying to understand specifically why this is a substandard product, you pointed out that it is a simple system, just ply coated with primer and acrylic, why is that bad? a slum house or best western indicates you are very much against this product, there are many systems that are more complicated, does more complicated, or more parts mean better? if so why? thanks G

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Tscarborough

Aside from looks, the system provides no way to flash. It is a skin and relies on perfection of that skin to prevent water penetration (which is the ultimate goal of any exterior finish). Any water that does penetrate has no path to leave the wall. Expansion and contraction issues are not dealt with at all in their literature, that I could find. Etc., etc.

It's primary virtue is that it is cheap.

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PRC

Ok here is an educated answer to your question.Sealoflex is a great product except for one huge issue.It is extremly flamable and can and will ignight without a spark I know a lot of contractors who have had roof burst into flames using this product.Sealoflex is an solivant based product.You should use HydroStop instead.HydroStop is a green building product and is water based.Sealoflex and HydroStop used to be the same company untill they split apart.HydroStop and Sealoflex both have no wind resistance because it is fluid aplied and become intigraded together to form one complete system with no seams.If installed in white it high albedo will break down and reflect 60% of the heat from your roof.You can also get 50.00 per sq back from you electric company for using it on residential applications and 45.00 per sq on commercial applications.It is EnergyStar approved Factory Mutaul Approved and in my opinion is the roof of the future and will ultimatley take over the flat roofing industry.HydroStop also covers the entire building envolope from below grade foundation to stucco. Hydrostop also has a 10 and 20 year renewable warranty for certified contractors and the HydroStop rep will com out to every job no matter how big or small to do an in progress inspection and a final inspection required for the warranty.That say alot for a manufacture considering they are the only one that will warranty LABOR and MATERIAL.Also I want to add they are not a new company and are on there third life cycle (30 years.)

Tscarborough

Um, wrong product, PRC.

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PRC

They do the whole building envolope including Stucco

genecarp

why cant drip caps above all windows and doors be used to provide flashing like many other siding systems? any properly installed siding should keep water out, when we use wood or vinyle siding we are not planning on letting water out after penetration, we are planning for no water penetration. any way i just think often products are dismissed because they challenge traditional thinking, and it is unfair to judge without all the technical info..

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Tscarborough

Talk to the rep, raise the issues I have and see how they are addressed. For building, I am not a fan of any system that only reduces cost. What are the specific advantages of this, excluding cost?

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PRC

Both these systems are self flash and are ran directly up the wall with renforced fabric They are also the oly one that cover the entire flashing detail in there warranty no other system covers more than six inches up a wall you can also run the product up and over paraphat wall and install a coping cap.Also the expandind and contracting issues is the reason HydroStop will only let you use there fabric because it also is the only system that has fabric that will expand and contrct without cracking

genecarp

thats why i want to meet with him, thanks for raising these issues, i will definately ask him everything we have discussed.

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genecarp

so the reps came over yesterday, they of coarse had an answer for every concern i had, they think there product is superior to eifs in every way, it is a totally breathable , and 100% waterproof system, the rear drainage plane is not a concern with this system, which i like because who wants to deal with water and moisture after it beats the primary siding. top of windows are flashed as with any other siding. special tapes and coatings butt to the sides of windows for waterproofing, denshield is the recomended substrate. the color selection is extensive, the product is flexable, and has been around for many years, cost for mat, about $2 a sqft. i like what i see , so far. FIRE AWAY!!!!G

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Tscarborough

Did you ask for the address of a five year old building? A ten year old one?

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weputuplights

No idea, but watch out. I would wait to see a report on it first.