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04-22-2008, 12:33 AM
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Domain Values
Here is another Great Site I found that is used for Estimating the Value of Your Domain Name or Any Other Domain Name.
Try it out :
http://www.nameboy.com/nameboyappraisal/order.php
Then compare to This one :
http://www.dnscoop.com/
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04-23-2008, 05:17 PM
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Tampa Tile Roof Cleaning
My domains are valueable, according to this.
Selling them is another matter
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04-23-2008, 05:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof Cleaning
My domains are valueable, according to this.
Selling them is another matter 
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I think the only way to find out would be to "List the Domain for Sale"
and see if there might be a buyer.
There are sites like this :
http://www.sell-my.com/
It might be worth a try.
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"Success" Is The Ability To Go From Failure To Failure,
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04-24-2008, 08:17 AM
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Dnscoop.com is bull**** - they count your yahoo backlinks not Google, their domain value has no value.
One of my domain is few months old and with barely any link, it shows the domain is worth $500
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04-24-2008, 04:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed
Dnscoop.com is bull**** - they count your yahoo backlinks not Google, their domain value has no value.
One of my domain is few months old and with barely any link, it shows the domain is worth $500
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Very Interesting... even if the domain is new,the appraised value could be $500 anyways.
I posted that information for Comparison Purposes, thats all.
A wise man once told me "Anything of Value is Only worth what Someone is Willing to Pay for It."
Value may not equal what a buyer is willing to pay at all. Everybody wants a Great Deal.
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"Success" Is The Ability To Go From Failure To Failure,
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04-26-2008, 09:49 PM
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Tampa
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Roof Cleaning
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I WISH my domains were worth what they say.
My company website is number one in the world on Google for search term roof cleaning Tampa Non Pressure Roof Cleaning
I am a Single 53 year old Man.
I started a Non Profit Singles Group 10 years ago.
It TOO is number one in the world on Google for search term Singles Group
Brandon - Tampa Florida Singles Group
These sites are linked to each other.
I made these primitive looking sites on Webspawner.
Yes, they are AWFUL looking by todays standards, and maybe from yesterdays too 
But they are number ones in their search terms, and I am skeered to mess with em.
The NEW "battle" is the Google Map results.
These are displayed ABOVE the organic listings in tampa, where I live.
We are number one Google Maps too for search term roof cleaning tampa fl.
If I was not a roof cleaner, I would do web site placement optimization.
Please do not ask me how I did it.
I have a group of local competitors cyberstalking me. 
I gotta eat too ya know
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04-26-2008, 09:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed
Dnscoop.com is bull**** - they count your yahoo backlinks not Google, their domain value has no value.
One of my domain is few months old and with barely any link, it shows the domain is worth $500
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Good point!
IMHO, the only web sites of ANY value are the ones SEEN by potential customers.
An UGLY web site that gets hits will out perform a pretty one that is seldom seen.
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04-27-2008, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick2008
I did design and build my own site. Hostsnake just hosts it. I haven't bought my own domain yet because pegasusdesigns is already taken and I haven't decided what domain to buy.
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hah, i know you lol! i'm the guy that messaged you about the gutters on that fancy design with the wrap around porch.  This site rocks by the way, so does yours. I'm working on one site for a siding company i use to work for while working for one of his competitors while i save up money to re-open my dad's business. I'll be working on that site too soon. I want to get ahold of some of his/our previous home owners/customers and acquire some testimonials, pictures, and other good portfolio type stuff to get it going right. Plus i can sub contract for the two companies above.
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04-28-2008, 11:23 AM
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Personally I think the best website is the one which has unique content and is updated almost twice a day with unique stuff.
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04-28-2008, 11:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed
Personally I think the best website is the one which has unique content and is updated almost twice a day with unique stuff.
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Agreed Zafar, as long as it is seen in the rankings 
No need to update a page three site
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04-29-2008, 06:52 AM
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Taking your advice
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Originally Posted by tinner666
pegasusdesigns.hostsnake is not going to get the traffic that pegasusdesigns.com would, for starters.
Even ir you're going to have somebody design and build your site, you need to register your own dot.com.
Then you keep the dotcom info private, but let the developer only have a seterate access to the ftp of your site for working purposes. If hsnake regged your name, it's theirs, not yours.
Hopefully, you can get a name yourself.
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I've taken your advice and bought my own domain. I haven't gotten my new site fully functional and ready to look at yet, but I have added a message board that is up and running. I would love to have any of you that want to sign up and provide some input. It is geared more toward people that are looking to have a new house built, but I have a special section just for contractors. Please stop by and have a look at:
http://nuttergroup.freeweb7.com/forum/index.php
Thanks
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04-29-2008, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof Cleaning
Agreed Zafar, as long as it is seen in the rankings 
No need to update a page three site 
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Not sure what you meant by no need to update a page three site?
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04-29-2008, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zafar Ahmed
Not sure what you meant by no need to update a page three site?
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Well, WHO really goes back three pages and LOOKS anyway ?
NOT in my business.
If you aint on the first page, or maybe the second, you are screwed.
NOW, if you are updating to increase search results, ok.
But to update just to be updating .......
My point was, why update a site no one sees ?
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04-29-2008, 02:34 PM
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When I know what I'm looking for, which is normal for me, I go back 50 pages if need be.
"I would love to have any of you that want to sign up and provide some input. It is geared more toward people that are looking to have a new house built, but I have a special section just for contractors. Please stop by and have a look at:"
I'll look in a few minutes.
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04-29-2008, 02:41 PM
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I tried. Every time I logged in, it said welcome, then redirected to a page that said I wasn't logged in.
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05-10-2008, 01:02 PM
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Lots of great information here... I think I can add some value to this discussion.
Top Search Engine Rankings are what every single contractor with a website would hope to acheive.
Is it something you can do on your own...? More or less Yes it is... It's just really time consuming work. And it's NON-INCOME PRODUCING for the first few weeks/months until you get the desired ranking.
Here's what it boils down to...
It's not so much about your keywords and meta-tags nor has it got anything to do with Search Engine Submissions (total rip-off by the way)
The fastest and easiest way to acheive rankings with your website is to employ some sort of link building activity to your website.
What does this mean....?
Websites link to other websites all of the time... And this is a MAJOR way that search engines base their algorithms.
Look at it like this...
Let's say you have a website ABCContractor.Com and you specialize in Custom Log Home Construction for example.
You would want YOUR website link on other websites. The link would say "Custom Log Home Construction" and when clicked lead someone to your main website.
These clickable links contain what's called "Anchor Text". ABCContractor.Com is your URL but "Custom Log Home Construction" is your anchor text. Get it...?
The more websites out there with your link that says "Custom Log Home Construction" the more important your site is going to be to the search engines.
Search engines think of these as votes... If they spider links on many different websites that all point to your website with the anchor text "Custom Log Home Construction" the search engines are going to think you're a really important website related to those keywords and your rankings will increase.
How many links does it take...?
Well that all depends on your competition... But typically one can begin to see a rise in their rankings with as little as 5-10 incoming links.
To make it even easier... Search Engines are giving much more weight to local websites when someone in their geographical area does a search for their services.
So from my example above... If you had ABCContracting.Com and you were located in Seattle for example. You would want ALL of your incoming links to say "Seattle Custom Log Home Construction"
As you build your links the search engines will be filing your website into their local ranking algorithms. You stand a better chance at getting ranked for local searches and you're no longer competing on a national scale for rankings.
So how can you get these incoming links...?
1. Local Online Business Directories. - Some may charge you a small monthly/yearly fee. Pay It! These links are valuable incoming links. They may not bring you immense traffic but they will greatly benefit your website as far as search engines go.
2. Other local contractor websites. - Do you work with any sub-trades or other non-competing contractors that have their own websites...? If so, consider exchanging links with them. You put their link on your site and vice-versa.
3. Writing & Submitting Articles. - This is a little more time consuming but can be very effective. If you write short 500-750 word articles they can be submitted for free to content directories. Webmasters pick these up and publish them on their own websites. They MUST give you (the author) full credit for the article and post a link to your website. These are incredibly valuable links to have.
What could you write...?
"5 Questions To Ask Any Contractor Before They Start Your Job"
"10 Ways To Make Sure Your Contracting Job Goes Smoothly"
"How To Get The Best Prices From Your Local Contractor"
etc... And write articles specific to your trade.
Search Engine Rankings Aside... Here are several more ways you can start building quality traffic to your website without blowing money on PPC.
1. Print your web address on ALL of your company stationary.
2. Make sure your web address is included on your business cards.
3. Make sure your web address is included on your vehicle signage.
4. Make sure your web address is on your jobsite signs (if you have any)
5. Make sure your web address is in your yellowpages ad (if you have one)
6. Make sure your web address is included in your contractor association profile or with your local chamber of commerce, organizations you may be a part of.
7. Make sure your web address is included in ANY of the print advertising you do such as classifieds, local magazines etc...
Hope this helps some of you.
Carl Sorensen
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05-10-2008, 08:28 PM
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Catch what you'll eat.
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Just remember links are advertising NOT optimizing, as in SEO.
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05-11-2008, 12:48 AM
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Just remember links are advertising NOT optimizing, as in SEO.
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Well.... Okay. You can call the links whatever you want but I am telling you they are absolutely necessary when it comes to successfully SEO'ing a website. It's called "off-page" optimization.
SEO optimization firms would love for you to believe it all comes down to your keywords, meta-tags and on-page optimization. The reality is that incoming links (from reputable and related websites) carry a lot more weight.
For the average contractor trying to rank a website locally for their keywords they would need between 5-20 inbound links to see significant gains in SE rank. It would depend on how many other contractors are on the ball or not.
Carl
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05-11-2008, 09:25 PM
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We are in Boston area need more like 10k to 20k links to rank for any key words worth going after.
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05-11-2008, 09:33 PM
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The "fight" in the Tampa Area has moved from web sites to local maps results.
These are displayed on TOP of the web sites.
We are number one for our search term - roof cleaning tampa - in both web site AND Maps.
Thank GOD our field is a niche market
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