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Old 02-15-2010, 08:53 AM   #21
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If you're cutting the columns down the middle as shown then assembling, how are you making up the wood lost due to the saw kerf? A pair of 1/8" shims?
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There is no need for shims- 80th fine cut diablo -1/8" - the cuts are mated-the difference is not negligible and is next to impossible to find the seam in the column- remember the larger the diameter of the column , when split and reassembled 1/8" is nothing and will not show. Columns ranging from 3"- 30"D will have no issues when used as a wrap around.
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Great post, thanks to Oliver, GMOD

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Great looking work. I'm surprised you wouldn't use a bansaw to split the columns. You would lose a lot less material.
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For this type of constructed column:


One option to have split staved columns is you can paper/glue the seam, which joints were at 90 degrees (1/2),,. The drawbacks are your work can disintegrate on the lathe if there is a sudden vibration from shaping that will resonate through the hallow column and cause that paper joint to weaken and could violently disassemble write in front of you at around 800 rpm - The safer way, and more precise and clean method is to mill the joint

Here are the reasons I prefer not to use a band saw on staved columns to split and reassemble:


A.Lack of control on the piece- if something goes wrong laterally- I have to do it all over again. A few I know do split there work with a band saw but they are smaller works and more manageable , not large hallow staved columns,,.I do use my 32" Moak BS ,1/2 spindle/baluster/corbels- lots of corbels,,,,, - but not large architectural staved hallow columns.

B. The tare out is to much and the cut is jagged and rough, that would involve having to plane it at that point,which I cant do safely, and even if I could I will be taking more material off creating a narrower gap between flutes/true diameter and would start to become eyed and not truly round.

c. You would need to have a specific set up (platform and jigs) in conjunction with your BS and this would consume a large amount of space. Your talking a 25'L x 7' footprint to have this setup properly and in the end- the limitations would be the depth allowance of your BS . The Moak is 20" barely, I would not be able to split at that up to 30", not going to happen.

My TS and temporary jig and the extended roller extensions work very,very well-it is all level and gives a nice clean cut all the way through to the end- been doing it this way for 6 years - It doesn't matter if it's 3" or 30". I have never had any issues with this, I learned this threw I guy that owns a German Zimmerman - talk about lathes, it belongs in a showroom- just awesome, anyways - he told me about this method of using his Oliver 288TS with roller extensions and jig to split large hallow columns ,so I tried it and have had great success ever since and the pieces stay on the jig after they are cut and won't get damaged. I have end plate jigs from 4" all the way up to 32" in 2" increments to section out a column at any angle and any section of the column if need be depending on the situation and how it is being implemented on a project.


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I hope this answers your question -and I appreciate your interest Jason
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Very nice work (and pics)

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Thank you - as far as the BB Issue- it's all good - I wish the rest wouldn't get so angry at me- It was just the way I was taught - Mike has his way, you have your way- it's all good- I just wish it didn't get so personal-The Framers are really up in my "ss now if you haven't noticed- WTF - I did not intend to mean that what they do doesn't have to be accurate- they are all true craftsman and I admire what they can do- seriously, that is a talent all it's own. All I meant was, that aspect of construction is a little more forgiving than trim work-that's all I meant by that. The saga continues-
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You too...good stuff
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Looks real nice. Gotta take care of those old houses.
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Awesome work here. A real talent. Thanks for sharing.
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