1739 Yet another restoration over the past 20 years. - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

wizendwizard · 02-05-2008, 03:15 PM

This is what the 1 of the historicals look like down south.
Unfortunately it's not my job, wish it were.
This is 1 of 10 homes in my town that are of this era or older.
I'll post some of the others as i think to get pics of them.

Work just started on it at the beginning of last week.
Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Home was built in 1833 and was later occupied by confederate and then union soldiers.

Jason W · 02-05-2008, 03:56 PM

Looks like a good project. Is it privatly owned or state owned? Maybe the Contractors will let you get some inside pics

wizendwizard · 02-05-2008, 04:14 PM

Privately owned.

I wish she wouldn't have let it get that run down. If you look closely you can see the damage to one of the collums. I love the decorative work on the mouldings. Carpentry by had just looks more appealing than the new machine way.

I'll stop by when i get a chance and see if i can get some shots of the interior.

neolitic · 02-05-2008, 06:09 PM

Cool!

Thanks, and by all means...
more pix!

Jason W · 02-05-2008, 06:40 PM

I'm trying to guess what they're about to do.

Wiz,

Have the added supports alway been there or were they just added by the contractor? Looks like there gonna pull those columns.

neolitic · 02-05-2008, 06:45 PM

At least replace /restore bases.
Also looks like they're working
the beam on the balcony.
2¢

wizendwizard · 02-05-2008, 07:48 PM

Column replacement... If you look at the 2nd one from right it is severely damaged from rot.

Both balconies are also rotted.Lots of old paint.

The support post were added by contractor on saturday. I don't know if that is the proper way to support this structure but it is being used on multiple renovations around here. It doesn't look like those boards would support that weight once the columns are removed

I also found 2 more historical restorations going on nearby this evening and intend to get outside pics of those as well.

Well, my better half just found our digital cam so i will get some better pics tomorrow.

neolitic · 02-05-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wizendwizard

Column replacement... If you look at the 2nd one from right it is severely damaged from rot.
Both balconies are also rotted.Lots of old paint.
The support post were added by contractor on saturday. I don't know if that is the proper way to support this structure but it is being used on multiple renovations around here. It doesn't look like those boards would support that weight once the columns are removed
.

That's very common.
Hard to read the scale, but I'd be using
2X10 or 12 doubled or tripled.
Looks something like that in the pic.

WNYcarpenter · 02-05-2008, 10:40 PM

It looks to me as if the foundation is failing... The left front corner has sunk ....The facade is 4"-6" out of level in 30'. The ridge is out of plumb...I think the house is pulling the porches out. The porches can be cheated to look right, but the entire house needs a propper foundation.

neolitic · 02-05-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WNYcarpenter

It looks to me as if the foundation is failing... The left front corner has sunk ....The facade is 4"-6" out of level in 30'. The ridge is out of plumb...I think the house is pulling the porches out. The porches can be cheated to look right, but the entire house needs a propper foundation.

You can see more than I can there

They are using those props so that they
can work on the the under pinning.
Whether it's wood or stone slabs,
I guess they're gonna replace the porch too.

wizendwizard · 02-06-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by neolitic

That's very common.
Hard to read the scale, but I'd be using
2X10 or 12 doubled or tripled.
Looks something like that in the pic.

I'm sorry to say, wrong in 1.
The supports are actually 2x6's doubled. My wife questioned me on it when she saw it. Smart and cute, I think i'll keep her.
Thats why I said I don't think it's gonna hold the weight if they remove the columns. We'll see.
I'm going in for a closer look in the morning.
I'll keep it posted.

neolitic · 02-06-2008, 12:06 AM

I guess I'm making the whole
house larger than it is.

Yeah, pictures with a camera
rather than a phone...
and get a lovely young lady to
stand there...
just for scale mind you.

Jason W · 02-06-2008, 07:47 AM

I think I would've used a steel beam held up by cribbing at each end for that set up. 2 x 6's are a little shaky

wizendwizard · 02-06-2008, 09:45 AM

I may be wrong about the 2x6 after all. I'm going in a few to look it over and get some decent pics.

neolitic · 02-06-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by wizendwizard

I may be wrong about the 2x6 after all. I'm going in a few to look it over and get some decent pics.

Don't forget the lovely
young lady part!

wizendwizard · 02-06-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by neolitic

Don't forget the lovely
young lady part!

Sorry can't help on that 1, wifes at work.

wizendwizard · 02-06-2008, 11:12 AM

Yes, double 2x6 with 2x4 spine

Column and deck damage

I love the old hand made decorative stuff.

Rear of house

Well thats all for my show for today. Tune in tomorrow and lets see what surprizes are in store.

neolitic · 02-06-2008, 12:50 PM

Well, wasn't that far off to begin with.
2X6 & 2X4 (5½+1½=2X8) from that distance.
Probably plenty (though sure no overkill).
What would scare me is using 8" block
for pads. Is that right?
I criss-cross 2X12 -- at least.

Keep up the progress pics

What city is this?
Does the property have a name?
Thanks!

wizendwizard · 02-06-2008, 02:15 PM

Ashley-Willis House

</B></B>312 W. Main Street, Williston, Barnwell County
</B>Listed in the National Register: June 22, 2004

The Ashley-Willis House was constructed sometime between 1830 and 1850, probably after 1833, when the construction of the South Carolina Rail Road encouraged the development of Williston and facilitated the transport of building materials to the area. The Ashley-Willis House was the Union headquarters for members of Sherman’s army when he sent them to Williston to destroy the railroad that was so important to the Confederate army. In the 1830’s courthouses and places of worship in South Carolina frequently made use of the gable-front form of Greek Revival style, inspired by South Carolina architect Robert Mills. The Ashley Willis House, however, is unusual as a residence that employs the gable-front form. The house still retains its Greek Revival appearance, with its original Doric columns, windows, and window and door moldings.

The house before it's decline

wizendwizard · 02-06-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by neolitic

What would scare me is using 8" block
for pads. Is that right?
I criss-cross 2X12 -- at least.
What city is this?
Does the property have a name?
Thanks!

Those are solid concrete pillars as foundation for the staircases
18x18

There are no pads under the 2x6's. Just butted into dirt and staked.