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Safety Saves You
Trade: Construction Safety
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 128
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This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
My employer has an official site, however the soon to be former, webmaster is refusing to hand over the admins for updates and changes. Therefore, we are in the process of a major overhaul on that website... that's another story....
It has been my job to market this business without a budget... it's been difficult, but I've made things happen. I have talked the owners into spending a little moola on the website below. It only cost $80.00 for the year. What do you think for the money? Any additions? www.10houroshatrainingmissouri.com |
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Pro
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 105
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
ten whores sh@t rain? Is this about that incident in the phillipines last week?
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Non-conformist
![]() Trade: Builder of businesses
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 825
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
Is there some special reason your employer expects something for next to nothing? To market without a budget is asking you to perform a miracle. You'll burn yourself out when they expect something and pressure you about why it isn't working.
If they want to market online, they need a budget. Otherwise, save the money and focus on the marketing that's currently paying the bills. If this web site is suppose to generate income, start looking for a new job before they decide to pull the plug. I know that sounds harsh, but success in business means investing in getting business. The mentality of your employer sends up major red flags that indicate you will be out of a job before long, and stressed out in the meantime.
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Steve Chittenden Web/SEO Geek • Graphic Artist • Writer • Marketing Guy One reason I know so much about the web and marketing is that I don't have to know as much about construction. |
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Safety Saves You
Trade: Construction Safety
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 128
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
I appreciate the concern...
All is well and I have seen results from my efforts. I'm a career band director and I appreciate the opportunity to suppelment my income this way. They do expect to see results and luckily I have honed my skills to see them. I was just glad to talk the owners into the purchase of this subsite which I know will be found on Major search engines... thanks again... |
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Trade: Roofer, Domains and Hosting
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Richmond, Va.
Posts: 2,456
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
Is the mottled black and white area in the middle 'print' of some sort? Many contracts have larger font sizes on the bottom, or back. And the same for what might be smaller print on the left.
I like the keywords/title 'Home Page'. Probably a much searched term. Sorry, but that won't cut it.
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Pro
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ireland
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
I still wanna know where the women passing rain come in.
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New Guy
Trade: HVAC
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
You can do it.
Just write 10 articles on something that has not been written before that others in the business will think their visitors would like and convince them to link to your site. This may take 2-3 months to write. |
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Pro
Trade: Roofer, Domains and Hosting
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Richmond, Va.
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
I apologize for my snide post. You'll need to change the title, add readable text, keywords, etc. I offer website tonight too, but will be the first to say that adding Analytics and WebMaster tools is nearly impossible.
So, just do the next best thing and add plenty of text and pics!
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Safety Saves You
Trade: Construction Safety
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 128
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
Is the OSHA News section enough text?
With WebSite Tonight, after I make an update, is "publish updates" what I want to do or do I "publish all" each time? Pics are searchable? ![]() I try to update it 3-4 times a week... too much? Tinner - I can take a little snideness now and then... appreciate the thought though. |
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Web Dude
![]() Trade: Web Stuff
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: All the way Western Mass
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
The $80 bucks could of been better spent getting a pro Wordpress template, and tinkering from there.
Obviously your on page SEO needs work, off page SEO needs work, header needs to be changed, call to action needs to be prominent on the home page, Contact Us needs an easy to use form, News Page needs dividing headings, all text needs to be divided into sub sections so that it is more scanable, fonts need to be changed to be more readable, Nav buttons need to be changed so it is readable, Godaddy banner should be eliminated. That's all I can see right off the bat ![]() Sucks when people don't want to spend money. Websites are just like anything else, you get what you pay for. Good luck though, let me know if you need any more input.
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New Guy
Trade: HVAC
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
Generally you should have more text than html code. But if you look around (like I did in the field of safety training) you will find there is at least one gold-plated blueprint to generate a high ranking site. If I told you you wouldn't believe me so you'll have to find out for your self.
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Safety Saves You
Trade: Construction Safety
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 128
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 BucksQuote:
What??????????? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....I look around for that Gold Plate.... Thank you all for the lesson.
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Non-conformist
![]() Trade: Builder of businesses
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 825
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 BucksI'll give you the condensed version of the answer because to really answer it, you need books and lots of research. On page: Good coding practices like using heading tags (h1, etc,), making sure you have keywords in your content without stuffing or being articial, using good alt text on your images, etc. Top priority should be given to page titles. They must be unique on each page and describe the content of the page in 80 characters or less. Don't worry about meta tags except for the description tag. This tag should be a short sentence that summarizes the content of the page, just the facts, no "selling." Be sure you use good anchor text on your links (describe your links, don't just say "click here"). Name your pages and files using descriptive keywords. There's much more, but that should give you an idea that attention to detail is important. Off page: Primarily inbound links to your site. Make sure you are listed on relevant directories (yellow pages, trade associations, local directories, etc.). Don't get too zealous with directories. The value is minimal, but it's important to be sure you are listed on the main ones that search engines pay attention to. Any links you get from other sites also help. If you have good content, your links will grow over time. Be careful with link exchanges. For the most part, avoid them. I would recommend serious research before making mistakes because some errors can get you blacklisted by search engines. Participating in online communities related to your business will gain you exposure too. This forum is an example.
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Steve Chittenden Web/SEO Geek • Graphic Artist • Writer • Marketing Guy One reason I know so much about the web and marketing is that I don't have to know as much about construction. Last edited by cbscreative; 09-10-2009 at 11:34 AM. Reason: add clarity and try not to sound techy |
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Safety Saves You
Trade: Construction Safety
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 128
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
cbscreative....
thank you. I've got some work to do. What if I have been blacklisted? How would I know? What can I do? |
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New Guy
Trade: HVAC
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 23
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 BucksQuote:
Why don't you create an online test that quizzes on different aspects of safety. You are selling training not tests so you are not giving away your product. Ask test takes for their email address to send them periodic information. They are in the market for this type of service after all. They are probably companies looking to stay out of trouble with new laws etc. Make the tests thorough and ask important sites to link to you. You can find these sites by looking at sites that are linking to the top sites now. As long as your site is clean it does not matter if it is fancy or even attractive. Get rid of the GoDaddy logo. Joomla must have some quiz software. |
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Non-conformist
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Michigan
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 BucksQuote:
If you're doing all this yourself, my next point may not apply, but for the benefit of other readers I will cover this too. Be careful who you hire to do any SEO. Many of the so called SEO experts play with fire and risk getting their clients burned. I serve as an admin on a small business forum and the crap we have to deal with from people using ill conceived SEO strategies is ridiculous. When you trace back some of the forum spam we get, it goes back to "SEO companies" who are "link building" for their clients. Most forum spam gets deleted quickly, but for those forums that aren't as well managed, search engines are getting increasingly smarter about spotting patterns. Forum links carry very little weight with search engines anyway, so it's wasted effort for the most part. Before I make this post too long, one of the best ways to qualify anyone you hire is to make sure they've been in business for several years (I suggest 5+). The scammers tend to be short lived, and so are their tactics. Sometimes they actually generate impressive results, only to be smited later by Google and sent into purgatory.
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Steve Chittenden Web/SEO Geek • Graphic Artist • Writer • Marketing Guy One reason I know so much about the web and marketing is that I don't have to know as much about construction. |
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Registered User
Trade: roofing
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: rock island illinois
Posts: 15
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 Bucks
It very "wordy"!! I think you can can make it more customer friendly.
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The Contractor's Advocate
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Re: This Site Cost Us 80 BucksQuote:
I have boatloads of helpful advice for you. Let's chat.
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