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**Cole** · 12-08-2006, 06:42 PM

Ok, who has used them and what do you have to say about the quality of leads.

Before I commit to $325 a month I want to hear what others have to say.

dougchips · 12-08-2006, 07:08 PM

I get leads from them, I think I have only purchased one. They provide a good project description.

**Cole** · 12-08-2006, 07:15 PM

How much do you pay a month?

Did you sell the one lead you bought?

dougchips · 12-08-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole

How much do you pay a month?

Did you sell the one lead you bought?

Zero, I get previews for free. I signed up for window leads and have yet to get one in my area. Reliable Remolder charges me a small 5-10 monthly fee and the others are free of a monthly charge. Have you tried Quinstreet?

Brian · 12-08-2006, 08:40 PM

I tried to sign up with them, but of the 6 or 7 zip codes I gave them they said they wouldn't have given me a lead in the past 6 months.

This is in Houston and the zips I gave them have about 250K households.

Brian Phillips

Eric K · 12-09-2006, 01:12 PM

Im with them. I pay 50bucks a month and they send me leads to preview. I accept as many as I want. I guess the more you pay the more you get. I get more than enough tho, considering im pretty busy as it is. Actually going to to a small bath remodel this week from a renoexpert lead. As with most lead services you get a lotta "how much will it cost leads".

**Cole** · 12-09-2006, 01:46 PM

$50 a month!!!

That is it?

Why am I having to pay to $325 a month?

MKamis · 12-09-2006, 08:39 PM

They may be trying to sell you a different level of service. For more money, they will give you exclusive leads. The only problem I see is this... People that shop on the internet tend to shop around, ie: if they put in a job request with one referral company, why wouldn't they do that with several others? All it takes is to cut and paste the text with the job description, and with autofill forms for personal info, one could post inquiries at 10 sites in 20 minutes.

I have to add that I have gotten a couple of good leads from Reliable Remodeler, but I have also paid for some leads that had obviously been out there for a while. I've found it to be worthwhile to ask the potential customer what date they posted the listing. If more than a week goes by before you get the lead, it may be too late to get the job.

realpurty2 · 12-09-2006, 09:02 PM

Cole, it sounds as if they are trying to set you up with the entire package which includes a website and pre-screening the leads. You can do it one of two ways if you don't want the full service.

1. Pay $50 a month and accept all the leads you want
2. Go on a pay per lead basis and only pay for the ones you want.

It all depends on how many leads they get in your area how expensive they will be per lead. We tried them out when we were first starting but the leads were few and far between for our area. The ones that did come thru ranged in price from $5 for small jobs to $50 for a new construction full build. It's definately cheaper to pay the monthly if you plan on accepting alot of the leads.

Of the ones we've tried in the past, so far, Rennovations Experts definately was the best. Reliable Remodler 2nd but expensive, and EveryContractor.com was crappy.

Every area and trade is different though. We live in a small rural area that is not very computer literate so not many leads come in via internet.

Just my two cents...

**Cole** · 12-10-2006, 01:46 PM

Robin,
That is what I thought but now they are telling me you pay based on volume.

They projected that I would see about 60-70 leads a month.

I just hate the fact that you pay $325 a month with no guarantee of return.

Cole

Grumpy · 12-12-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole

Robin,
That is what I thought but now they are telling me you pay based on volume.

They projected that I would see about 60-70 leads a month.

I just hate the fact that you pay $325 a month with no guarantee of return.

Cole

There is never any guarantee of return in any advertisine, Cole. Sure some forms of advertising are more solid than others... but $325 really isn't alot to be honest... especially if they are forecasting 60 leads a month. Assume you accept 40 out of those 60 and assume 30 are actual real leads, that leaves a cost of $10 per lead. Not bad?

As if they will give you a 1 month trial. Like I said though, $325 really is not alot. I spend more than that with EACH of the search engines I have sponsored listings.

Eric K · 12-12-2006, 05:54 PM

The 50 bucks a month I think gets me 20 leads a month. Most are in the trash box in my email but I do go and look at, at least 1-2 jobs a month from them. For $50 a month its worth it to me. I dont need all that extra leads that right now I cant handle. Being a small company I dont want to outgrow myself too fast and lose it. Slowly but surely.

**Cole** · 12-12-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy

There is never any guarantee of return in any advertisine, Cole. Sure some forms of advertising are more solid than others... but $325 really isn't alot to be honest... especially if they are forecasting 60 leads a month. Assume you accept 40 out of those 60 and assume 30 are actual real leads, that leaves a cost of $10 per lead. Not bad?

As if they will give you a 1 month trial. Like I said though, $325 really is not alot. I spend more than that with EACH of the search engines I have sponsored listings.

I agree with you, thats why I signed up and going to give it a shot.

Its cheaper then SM in the long run.

marc · 12-12-2006, 07:10 PM

Just checked the numbers......................
YTD we have recieved 14 leads from them and sold 7 of them for a total of $57,070.00 in sales. That's a 50% close ratio that I will take any day of the week. I don't know what we pay them. The report I was looking at just tells me the amount of leads set and the amount of sales.

**Cole** · 12-12-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

Just checked the numbers......................
YTD we have recieved 14 leads from them and sold 7 of them for a total of $57,070.00 in sales. That's a 50% close ratio that I will take any day of the week. I don't know what we pay them. The report I was looking at just tells me the amount of leads set and the amount of sales.

That is great numbers!

I look forward to seeing more leads come my way.

vinylguy · 12-13-2006, 02:44 PM

hey and don't forget like grumpy always says, " its a numbers game when it comes to leads" 50% closing ratio is outstanding but relistically most people would only set 5-7 of those leads and close 2-3 of them. if but it sounds to me if you can handle it 60-70 leads a month for $325 is a great deal

ronc · 04-10-2008, 09:31 AM

oops

vinylguy · 04-10-2008, 10:40 AM

ronc,
thanks for the inside info! and your right it does suck when you just give your money away.
just got out of myfreesestimates.com they sucked too. sold the first couple of leads they let me try out then i signed up and oops! here we go again. never any refunds can't get anyone that knows anything on the phone.customer says they filled out the lead 2 months ago. its all a crock i am done with all lead gen services on the net.

morganexteriors · 04-10-2008, 11:13 AM

all in all,..as much as we all like to complain about these services,....and as much as some really suck,....there are a few that legitimately provide a good service.

we use my free estimates, service magic, quinstreet (beware--they like to forget about "credits" they promise you)--and like one of the guys was talking about--reliable remodeler as well,..only problem i've personally found is for the most part, we're paying on average between $30-$55 per lead,....and reliable remodeler i've noticed as of lately is charging anywhere's from $40 a lead to $150 a lead....all things aside, that's pretty expensive considering you're paying that money for JUST A NAME AND PHONE NUMBER.

ive personally spoke to tim giles w/ reliable remodeler to see if they realize why im not taking any of these overpriced leads they send me, and come to find out, if you contact them toward sthe end of the day they are willing to "dicker" on the price per lead...sounds great, but of course im concerned at how many contractors/ construction firms they sell this one name and number to.....they all claim "no more than 3"----i think it's B.S.

--good luck

www.morganexteriorsnh.com

Paul Joseph · 04-10-2008, 02:40 PM

I canceled the service when I found out n the last kitchen they gave it to 15 contractors. I asked the customer and she had a record of each call