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THEHANDYMAN

Mike how many lead service have you actually used?

How did you get started in first place? Word of outh is great but you have to start some where the first job had to found soe how.

(Not being involved with lead gen outfits, I have no experience with them. But I've heard stories of contractors paying hundreds of dollars for leads that state the customer wants an entire shopping list of work to be done, then call only to find it's a 1-hour job. Net result: the lead cost more than the job.)


But yet you can complain because someones UNCLE on their MOMs side of the family, neighbors cuz, aunt knew a gal that her boyfriend had a buddy that had such and such happen. Oh yes you are a real reliable source of info. This is a real joke for sure! This is the person that everyone should listen to. GIVE ME A BREAK!

Scares you when you relise that this is an example of the intelligence that we have to work with here.

Mike Finley

Many of them. There was actually a time when they had a smidgen of a decent product. But that was long ago, then came all the dilutions, the games, the copy cats, the multiple reselling and of course the affiliates of the lead companies (that was a really great time when if you were a member of 2 different lead companies you would get the same leads from both of them)

The same way ANY business, (not just home improvement companies) does. Advertising.

You take a big ball of money and you spend it a little bit at a time on different ways of advertising. You record the incoming calls, denote the results, how many appointments, how many sales made. Later you take out a calculator and do some easy math and you figure out your lead acquisition costs for you marketing methods. Then you rank the different methods you are using by the results and stop doing the ones that rank the lowest. Keep repeating the process.

That is typically how any business gets customers. It's a traditional customer acquisition model that yields long term results that build upon themselves and snowball for the business.

Word of mouth is not a sustainable business model for all but a few special circumstances.

SMsupport

Steve, send me your number and a good time to call and we'll make it happen.

Thanks,

strammell@servicemagic.com

danthebathman

I've been using them for years and heres my break down; 1 in 4 leads is a good lead. At $50 a lead I am paying $200 for a legit lead. My average job is $16,000.00. $200 is 1.25% of $16,000.00 - not bad. As of lately though it is more like 1 in 7 leads are good. For it to work you need to max out all the tools they give you and call people back right away. It is an OK form of lead generation and should be used in conjunction with other forms of advertising and marketing. If thats not good enough for you or your not going to put an effort into it then don't bother - it will be a waste of money. Hope this helps.

J F

ok...how come anyone that comes anywhere near thinking sm's ok...can't form a fvkn paragraph...wtf??

silvertree

Eats, shoots and leaves!

The punctuation book recommended for contractors.

I have it on my nightstand and it allows me to provide an eloquent exchange with my Contractor Talk friends. All other means to elucidate are superfluous.

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J F

J F

oh hell, they've gotten to you already...ah...the humanity....

silvertree

That was in response to your paragraph remark.

Eats, shoots and Leaves. Look it up.

In regards to SM fans being paid, it seems logical they have some satisfied clients.
I'm playing fair to CT and SM, what happens happens.

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Darwin

Don King couldn't have said it better than you, Silver

Jmfocus

This is exactly what I have done for years with every just about every form of advertising there is. Because of this, I know where my numbers are and that is why I can use SM and know I am not wasting my money.

So why all the BS in this thread?

Jmfocus

Right!!!

J F

Right!!!





see, it's easy

Jmfocus

Are you the class clown or another village idiot?

J F

why can't I be both?

ModernStyle

SM called me today wanting me to sign up, so I asked what if the lead is bad? His answer was after submitting a bunch of crap I could possibly get a credit in like 6 months. So I asked could I look at the leads before I buy them, his answer was no I would be billed for every lead they sent even if it was just a tire kicker or some old lady who wanted one piece of trim her cat scratched up repainted. I am not paying $40 for a crap lead, I will do without SM.

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Stairsales

I have not used Service Magic but I am a member of a Sales Leads Club here in New Jersey. The service is extremely reasonable $25.00 a month or $250.00 for a year. They offer the sales leads as well as a business card or brochure distribution service which is new. The first month we received 753 leads, the second month 1.056, and this month 1,618, which has kept us busy. I just signed up for the Business Card distribution which is $20.00 a month or $200.00 for the year. The service has already paid for it's self many times over. Check it out the web site their email is CLCofNJ@comcast.net and their phone is 848 333-2796.

Scribbles

2 posts, and 25$ for 1,600 leads. bull****, and I think I will be able to grow past sm soon. Thanks to the help i have gotten here.

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Scribbles

And if you are really a handrail guy, tell me the formula for figuring out the post height for a curved arm volute?

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ModernStyle

The SM guy called me back a hundred times in the past 2 days so I quit answering, he then sent me an email and I replied that I didnt want his service due to the fact that I can not select what leads i want to pay for and because I have read many bad reviews about them on a contractor forum.
He wrote me back and said he had failed me by not being able to convince me how great their service was, he was willing to enroll me for free and skip the $99 activation fee. He also said you guys are liars, well not liars exactly, he said you didnt know what you were talking about.
I told him I want a free month trial, he said he cant do it, so no SM for me.

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