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Registered User
Trade: State CRC
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 10
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How About Renovation Experts
Has any one worked leads from this company? If so how has it been?
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Mod / ArchiBuilder
Trade: Design/Build Outdoor Living
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: ArkLaTexOma
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
They were once good, I dropped them and consider them to be in the same league as SM.
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Pro
Trade: Residential Remodeler
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Midwest
Posts: 893
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
They will let you barter for the price of their leads.(they don't tell you that until you threaten to quit 'em though} My standard closing rate is about 70% with yellow page or newspaper lead, and about 8% when I do use RE. I don't use them much though. I think the last block of leads I got 40 for $400.00. They send about 10 leads per week or more for my area, and I get to pick the ones I want if any.
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Pro
Trade: Kitchen & Bath
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Millersville, PA
Posts: 1,328
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
I'm under contract for another month with RE. I get my leads under a hotmail account. I haven't even looked at that email account for 2 months, that should tell you something about the quality of the leads.
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morgan exteriors
Trade: custom designed 3 and 4 season sunrooms, replacement windows and vinyl siding
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Raymond, New Hampshire
Posts: 49
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
these guys are directly linked to service magic..as much time and money as my company pays for using these internet companies in regards to providing us leads, it's well worth the time to do a little research and make sure these companies aren't "double-dipping".
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Registered User
Trade: interior design
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 17
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
I wonder why the home improvement sites and networks like This Old House don't have contractor directories and lead services? They'd have a lot more credibility and exposure than SM and this bunch.
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Professional Instigator
Trade: Design Build Remodeling Contractor DC MD
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Washington, DC/ Maryland
Posts: 6,872
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Re: How About Renovation ExpertsQuote:
Its a huge undertaking and advertising expense to run a lead company. Also they are extremely profit driven entities like most businesses. It might actually take away credablity from sites like this old house etc. If it flops or gets bad reviews from contractors |
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Registered User
Trade: interior design
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 17
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
You're right about it being a big commitment, but I see from another post that another big player has a new site so someone large is taking on SM and the rest. If they're providing a good service to contractors, it shouldn't hurt them - it should help them with both HOs and trades, shouldn't it? We need someone big - and credible - to come in.
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Registered User
Trade: Home Renovation
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
Hello friend,
Thanks you have given good opportunity for contractors interaction.. Advertising expenses are really high for any company and it is not sure also that advertisement will improve company's sales or business. Regards, Nelson
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David Festa
Trade: Framing Contractor
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,018
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
Renovation experts contract scam
Another builder in my area”He recently went of business” told me to call these guys for better leads instead of using SM First let me say the salesman initials are BS, which is what I got for a sales pitch and contract I’ll quote contract, someone tell me if I’m reading this wrong Company reserves the right to change or modify any of the terms and conditions contained in this Agreement at any time and from time to time in its sole discretion, and to determine whether any such changes apply to both existing or future customers. Company may make changes or modifications to referenced policies or guidelines without notice to you. Your continued use of the Services following Company's posting of any changes or modifications will constitute your acceptance of such changes or modifications. What’s stopping Renovation experts from robbing me blind??? Lead Returns. Lead returns are subject to Company's sole discretion and will be considered by Company under the following circumstances only: (1) Lead is a duplicate of a Lead previously provided to Customer by Company; or (2) Lead Information includes a disconnected or otherwise invalid telephone number I asked BS if he could add “Customer must own home and be authorized for work to be completed”, He told me no!!!!! All leads delivered to customer are deemed accepted unless, within forty eight (48) hours from the date that Company delivers Lead to the Customer, customer requests to return the lead for one of the reasons stated above This is not what he’s selling me on the phone, he’s telling the exact opposite, I can choose or decline each lead, what BS Bs reply: David, The first Circle - that IS the notification policy - if the company makes changes we notify you by e-mail, if 48 hours after opening the e-mail you continue using the service then we consider that you have accepted the changes. We will give you replacement leads for any that turn out to not own their homes. The paragraph below that applies to customers who are being charged on a per send basis - they are charged by lead received. It would not apply to you. The last circle is stating that we own the leads - that you cannot turn around and resell the leads to someone else. This prevents contractors from selling our leads to multiple people, that has happened before then they would be going to more than 4 contractors. We cannot accept modified agreements, I can send this e-mail clarifying the terms however - hopefully this will allay your concerns. Last edited by festerized; 10-29-2009 at 05:05 PM. |
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Registered User
Trade: remodeler
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
Read my reports under ripoffreports.com
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windows & siding
Trade: Home Performance: windows and exterior remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SE wisconsin
Posts: 653
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
Was an excellent lead source 5 yrs ago... Garbage since.
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Pro
Trade: renovations of all kinds
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: East Coast
Posts: 538
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
They were formally called "WCV Leads".
Always makes me concerned when a lead company starts out, and actually provides somewhat a decent service--then once the quality of the leads turn to shiat they change the name of their company. Used car dealerships do it everyday, so why not these guys. One positive thing with wcv/ renovations experts, however--they are actually the best of the bunch in regards to allocating actual credits/ credit card reimbursements for junk leads. |
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Registered User
Trade: General Construction
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4
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Re: How About Renovation Experts
Hi Men,
As we have all tried one lead company or another with mixed results, I personally struggle with paying for something I don't get and continue my search to find an alternative. I did find a company fixxbook.com that charges no fees to the contractor, the fees are actually paid by the national retail and restaurant clients. I signed up and within a week I was contacted by a chain retail store to register as one of their contractors and then received a couple of small jobs. Worth looking into as it seems to be legitimate. |
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