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Vinyl On Vinyl?
Got a bthrm remod to do including a small enlargement. Existing is sheet vinyl on conc. Can I put more vinyl on top after using levelling compound to bring the new area up to the same height? Or do I have to scrape? Any other thoughts? Rich.
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
Maybe someone knows better, - - but I would scrape it. Seems to me it would be too soft of a 'backer' for your new sheet vinyl.
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
have done it before. i hate doing vinyl anyway. cleaned it very good with rubbing alcohol then glued the new stuff down.
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
If the vinyl comes up easy , take it up , if not you can float it with A flash called Maypi . add a little liquid latex to it .. you cant put vinyl on vinyl because the pattern from the old will come through to the face of the new ..Plus you will get a lot of little air bubles in it .. Good Luck ..
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
Never ask questions if you don't want to hear the answer.
I hate scrapin'.Thanks for the input. Rich.
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
A small bathroom I'd scrape. If you run into a larger job I'd go with mannington embossing leveler it seemed to work best for me and i've tried them all.
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?Quote:
Actually, an embossing leveler is made to be just as hard as concrete. It's only job is to fill in the existing pattern so it will not show thru. I would only install over vinyl if I inspected to make sure there are not any existing bubbles, and make sure it is not a perimeter spread vinyl. Removing it would ultimately be best for more protection against failure, but I have been doing vinyl over vinyl for 10 years. And the vinyl will still be under warranty.
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
A glimmer of hope... Flor can you tell me about "perimeter spread vinyl"?
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
remember to fill any embossment at the edges of a perimeter glue or exspect some ghosting from the first floor. note vinyls before 1977 may be asbestos backed so best to leave in place
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
Ok, looked up "perimeter spread vinyl", never seen it, used it, this isn't it, I'm gonna do a test scrape and if the result doesn't disgust me I'll scrape the thing. Thanks for the info. Rich
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
If it's perimeter spread, then removal is easy.
You can use a suction cup in the middle of the vinyl, and if it lifts up big time then it is perimeter.
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Re: Vinyl On Vinyl?
gotcha, thanks
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