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OK first post here guys, so bear with me

I'm looking at installing vct tile in a 495 square foot room with 5 doors. It has indoor outdoor carpet on a concrete slab that i will have to remove and haul away plus remove vinyl cove and replace. There is also a fair amount of office furniture (file cabinets and such) to move.
Do you guys know what i should charge to remove and install this job. I'm just getting into VCT i mainly do seamless flooring and ceramic tile.

Floorwizard

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look, I understand the question, but have no clue where you are and cannot inspect the conditions. You gave good info but not nearly enough...sorry for any future thrashing you may get from others..it's all in good fun. We see this all the time...please don't take it personal.
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You need two guys to do this job. There's going to be a lot of time spent going back and forth from the truck and that's time that you won't be on the floor. The room will be empty in a hour tops, right? Not worth mentioning unless they don't have another area to store the furniture and you have to do such a small area in multiple sections. Indoor/Outdoor carpet can be a bear to tear out if they used the right glue. Worst case scenario that's 2-4 hours. The GLUE is what you have to worry about. There are special plates that go on a standard floor buffer that will "scrape-away" the existing adhesive down to the bare concrete. That's another hour or two and you'll need to sand or hand scrape all the spots where the machine missed. So you're down to the concrete. Now you'll need to float/skimcoat with Ardex Feather Finish til the floor is AT LEAST as smooth as a wall would be that you would put wallpaper or paint on. The bad news about modern vinyl flooring products is that they HIGHLIGHT defects in the substrate rather than hide them. Tiny little bumps will look like Mount Vesuvius if you ever throw a coat of wax on it an polish it up, which is usually the whole point of this kind of floor. Any joints, cracks or depressions will telegraph through over time. So it's all about patching. Worst case scenario I can patch 500 s/f in a couple of hours but I don't know how well you can swing a 24"x5" Marshaltown Extralite Finishing Trowel.

After the floor is prepped correctly I usually have no problem laying eleven cartons of VCT in an hour and a half to two hours even if there's a few crazy door cuts. Of course this is what I've done for a living all my life so figure 4-5 hours for you and a helper. VCT is really fun and easy for the whole family!

There's a slim chance that with my experience I could do that job by myself in a LONG day. I doubt that everything goes so perfect like that though. Add it all up and it's most likely either a 8-12 hour day or a very easy two day job for you and a helper in the worst case scenario. Bid it at 2 days with a helper. Only you know what your hours/time are worth. Good luck

protectflooring

I did a cut away section and the glue is yellow and can be scraped down to concrete with little effort ( maybe a water base type). as to the ardex feather finish, is it some what self leveling as i have never used that product before.
I'm in the deep south east part of Arkansas.

And Thanks for Any Help You Guys can offer.

Floordude

Your in way over your head. Seriously!!!!

Feather Finish is a skimcoating compound. The floor better be flat and debris free, A spec of sand will show as the glue sucks down the tile over time.

Floor prep is everything. Got a tile cutter?


How long is it going to take you?
How much out of pocket? Don't forget fuel and insurance, in that!
What do you need for your time, including all estimating time and running around time?


Now you know exactly what to charge.

Good Luck, your going to need it.

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Sounds like easy money. If you don't have a sander or access to a "scrape-away" plate then just bust your balls for a couple hours with a helper and plenty of 4" scraper blades until the glue is effectively gone. Feather Finish is the top of the line floor patch/underlayment that is mixed with water and troweled on as needed to create a smooth floor. There are other brands that will work fine. They're just not as easy for a beginner to work with as they set up WAY too fast and dont grab the floor or adhesive as well. Henry's and Armstrong make very good floor skimcoat and patch products. Don't be intimidated. It's like patching a wall with Fixall or joint compound. If it's a heavy patch you'll have to apply second and third coats with a light sanding or scraping in between. Take as much time as needed to get that concrete smooth before you think about spreading the glue. You can do it. Go for it.

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I have all the Insurance and can firgure the material cost and supplies so i have a number i WANT to charge but also know that i could apply an epoxy floor system for the same price. dont get me wrong i'm not trying to sell an epoxy floor here just thought VCT was cheaper than most other systems thus why you see more of them layed. I was just looking for the MAX someone would charge to do a INDUSTRIAL job (Papermill). Don't want to sell myself short or over bid it either. I have employees that have done this type of work but was looking for advice from the pro's.
I have been in the seamless flooring bussiness for 8 years now and the same is true FLOOR PREP--FLOOR PREP--FLOOR PREP AND THEN FLOOR PREP now lay the floor.

mrwoodman

I'm sure the job was overcharged by now

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