Slate Tile Over Concrete Under Woodstove?

 
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:15 PM   #1
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Slate Tile Over Concrete Under Woodstove?


I will be installing some slate tile under a woodstove (was half bricks). The floor is concrete so sturdiness is not a problem. Think I should install backer board as well, or use thin set right over the concrete?

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Old 08-25-2009, 11:32 PM   #2
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Follow the destructions.

Are you talking about tile which looks like slate or just slate?

What's the deal about people asking how to install slate?
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Natural slate cut into tiles. As an alternative to granite or marble.

I would imagine it is more popular here in PA than in some other areas of the country. Slate is everywhere in PA!!
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What's the problem? Concrete is a good substrate for stone. Why add backer into the mix? Just do it!
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An anti fracture membrane, may be in order.
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Seal the slate before you install, makes grouting easier & faster . No hardie needed, just use a flexbond mortar.

I have slate in my home , designers & decorators here say " travertine is a fad , slate is timeless".
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http://www.nacproducts.com/

Click on the link and learn about anti-fracture membranes.

They can be the difference in a short lived, or a long lasting installation.
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Thinset for smaller pieces...under 12x12 or so.
For suport or pieces over 12x12 or 16x16 user mortar.
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Thinset for smaller pieces...under 12x12 or so.
For suport or pieces over 12x12 or 16x16 user mortar.
BAH-LONE-E!

Use thinset and do it correctly.
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BAH-LONE-E!

Use thinset and do it correctly.




And what did you use before thinset came around?

Mortar/Cement used since before colonial times.
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Don't be an anus grasshopper. Methods change and improve with time. You are going back fifty years or more. Get with it man, update your brain.

If you aren't willing to learn then you aren't living up to the name grasshopper.

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Thinset for smaller pieces...under 12x12 or so.
For support or pieces over 12x12 or 16x16 use(r) mortar.
Think about how silly that statement sounds.
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I ended up using 1/4 inch hardie board attached with thinset and tapcons to bring it to the level of the rest of the floor, with thinset on the slate. Worked like charm and it is beautiful
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Don't be an anus grasshopper. Methods change and improve with time. You are going back fifty years or more. Get with it man, update your brain.

If you aren't willing to learn then you aren't living up to the name grasshopper.



Think about how silly that statement sounds.


Good catch; Grasshopper is always willing to learn.
In an attempt to help Matt I researched this...I had read mortar somewhere but could`nt remember where, I ran across other proponents including:

Tim "Ask the builder" Carter .

And I did not say I don`t use thinset.. .Mapei or Laticrete.... as unbelievable as it may sound we have this in Chicago.

Had I known about the legendary "Bud from Hastings" I would have waited patiently for your words of wisdom.


And just because someone or something is old is no reason to discard it.

Glad it worked for you Matt

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I'll be patiently awaiting your personal check for the tuition fee.
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