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05-30-2009, 12:03 PM
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Mitch the Handyman
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Thanks guys. I appreciate all the info. I'm just gonna rent a toe-kick saw from ABC rental. 30 bucks a day, charge them 60.
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05-30-2009, 12:08 PM
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Curmudgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Costello
....Along with the bucket saw.
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What's a bucket saw?
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05-30-2009, 02:47 PM
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Cpt. Chaos
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Quote:
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What's a bucket saw? 
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It is a cheap jigsaw mounted upside down on a phenolic plate that fits on a 5 gallon bucket. Idea is the dust falls (mostly) in the bucket and it is portable so you set it right next to your work area. Good idea, poor execution imo.
I do the same thing with a 25gal plastic trash can and my Dewalt jigsaw....waste goes right in the can and gets NO dust on the floor, just as portable and I ain't gotta pay $200 for a $30 saw
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05-30-2009, 02:55 PM
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Curmudgeon
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Well,
I'll be jiggered!
Never saw one of those.
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05-30-2009, 03:37 PM
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Knowledge Factory
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Certified Floorcovering Failure Investigator
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Cut a hole in the bottom of the bucket for your shop vac hose, and holes in the bucket table, to allow it to suck the dust. Hook both the vac and saw to a power strip with an on off switch.
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05-30-2009, 04:40 PM
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Pro
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5 points for the use of the word phenolic
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06-02-2009, 04:12 PM
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Registered User
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Flooring Industry - NOFMA Grad
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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
Not if they are willing to pay for it. Seriuosly, how much longer would it take to do what I said vs. dicking around trying to get that tile out from under the toe kick. What about where the fridge is or the dishwasher?
Take 4 hours to pull the counter and lowers in a modest sized kitchen?
How much time and effort will go into messing around trying to get the tile from under the kicks?
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Hmm, what if there's ceramic backsplash or wallpaper or even a flushmount top? Would you be taking that cab out and replacing everything to its original state to meet the customers satisfaction? If yes, now how much time and money is it? "Extra Add-on" $$
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06-02-2009, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrwoodman
Hmm, what if there's ceramic backsplash or wallpaper or even a flushmount top? Would you be taking that cab out and replacing everything to its original state to meet the customers satisfaction? If yes, now how much time and money is it? "Extra Add-on" $$
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It will cost what it costs. I know there are some unknown variables but, I would definatley offer up some options.
I really refuse to go around cabinets and in front of Dishwashers.
Thats just how I roll. Usually you can sell them on a new top and maybe add a backsplash as well.
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06-03-2009, 07:04 AM
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Mitch the Handyman
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
It will cost what it costs. I know there are some unknown variables but, I would definatley offer up some options.
I really refuse to go around cabinets and in front of Dishwashers.
Thats just how I roll. Usually you can sell them on a new top and maybe add a backsplash as well.
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Well, to be honest, these HO's should be charged for taking the cabinets out. They decided to get a new kitchen and did everything besides the floor. Which I don't understand because, it was failing to begin with. Whoever did the kitchen did not sell them on a new floor.. I don't get it.
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06-04-2009, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
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Well, to be honest, these HO's should be charged for taking the cabinets out. They decided to get a new kitchen and did everything besides the floor. Which I don't understand because, it was failing to begin with. Whoever did the kitchen did not sell them on a new floor.. I don't get it.
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My point exactley. Someone left money on the table. Sometimes all it takes is asking the right questions.
I will probably end up straight into a kitchen after I finshed a bathroom, all because of flooring in a hallway. You just have to strike up the right conversation and ask the right questions.
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06-07-2009, 10:23 PM
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Sponge
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gumba has it right!
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06-24-2009, 09:32 PM
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just got done with similar job, 4 vanities in one bathroom. Tile went 3" under vanities. 10" tiles went to replace with 14"s had no problem. Started in the middle of the room w/a pneumatic tile chisel. Once I got to the tile in the cabinet, the hardy board and mastic popped, scooted the tile and board out at the same time. Also had the same thing on concrete floor, was even easier, mastic popped right up. Cut the new tile 1/2" under vanities.
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08-05-2009, 10:33 PM
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I have to agree with the MULTIMASTER comment, But if you don't have one the Harbor Freight Multitool is a very good copy of the Multimaster, You'll have to buy the diamond blade (DO NOT BUY THE GROUT BLADE)
The diamond blade is about 3" Dia. Use it to score the tiles right at the cabinet and when you pop them up (Cross your fingers) they should snap on your line. I did a restroom floor that had the tiles go under the cabinet but didn't want to mess with the old plumbing so I didn't remove the (Double Vanity Cabinet).
I actually just busted the tiles out and anything that was flush or sticking out I busted it with a cold chisel. Lots of work Bid accordingly.
If you have a small air hammer the wide blade will work well for you but wear eye and ear protction.
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08-06-2009, 03:04 PM
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Member
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Tile under the cabinets ? literally under the cabinet. This is funny since tile are an aesthetic item within the home. What good is an aesthetic item if it is not visible ?
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08-06-2009, 04:32 PM
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On this post some are talking about new underlayment and then new tile.
Others are talking tile over tile.
With the trend today Granite Tops.
This plumber asks. Are future dishwasher replacements being considered, when you are raising floor height?
I mentioned Granite ... Formica tops could be unscrewed and pried up a bit. Not so with the new materials for tops.
Want to see a ticked off customer when they are told I can't get the D/W
out because your flooring man raised the floor.
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08-07-2009, 12:01 AM
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Tiling Contractor
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Tiling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plumber_Bill
On this post some are talking about new underlayment and then new tile.
Others are talking tile over tile.
With the trend today Granite Tops.
This plumber asks. Are future dishwasher replacements being considered, when you are raising floor height?
I mentioned Granite ... Formica tops could be unscrewed and pried up a bit. Not so with the new materials for tops.
Want to see a ticked off customer when they are told I can't get the D/W
out because your flooring man raised the floor.
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The OP said their kitchen was already redone so I don't think those would be issues. At the very least, the OP should mention this to the customers as a precaution.
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08-20-2009, 01:38 PM
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Laying the Laminate Right over the tile is fine. You can also decide to cut into the tile (which would be hard because of where it is positioned) and remove the excess parts that you have no use for.
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